--- In [email protected], bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], off_world_beings <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], MDixon6569@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > > In a message dated 3/10/07 4:01:32 P.M. Central Standard 
Time,  
> > > > eflood@ writes:
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > Now, the following are the senators who voted to give 
illegal  
> > aliens 
> > > > Social Security benefits. They are grouped by home state. If 
a  
> > state 
> > > > is not listed, there was no voting representative.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > You're aware that you don't get SS benefits unless you paid 
into 
> > the system, right?>
> > 
> 
> 
> > Can anyone enlighten me as to what exactly would a person get 
from 
> > SS, if lets say, they paid into it for 20 years? How much does 
the 
> > average Joe get at the end of all that, and what else do they get?
> > 
> > From a Brit...lost in America.
> > 
> > OffWorld
> >
> 
> *********
> 
> One is eligible for Social Security payments if they have earned a 
> small amount of money for 40 quarters in a lifetime (and if one has 
> earned nothing, they would be eligible for SSI at age 65 just by 
> virtue of being old and poor even if they never paid a dime into 
the 
> system). Social Security is canted toward the poor -- it's a safety 
> net, so payments are disportionate, with most of the benefits going 
> to low earners, and less, considering how much they paid in, to the 
> middle and upper classes. Most people opt for the reduced (75%) 
> monthly payment at age 62, which for most middle-class earners is 
> about $950/month currently -- if you wait til age 70 to start 
> collecting, you get 125% of the amount that you would get if you 
> retired at 66 or 67.
> You can figure all your future payments from calculators at the SS 
> site.  http://www.ssa.gov/planners/calculators.htm>>

Hmm, seems like a waste of time. 

Thanks


> Regarding undocumented aliens collecting Social Security, they are 
> currently paying about $7 billion a year into the Social Security 
> system, with no possibility of getting paid at retirement because 
> they are not legal residents. It's only fair that people who are 
> paying taxes should get some benefits, but in the current political 
> climate, it's unlikely that Congress is going to have the guts to 
pay 
> out to these workers who are participating in the American economy 
> regardless of whether they have the proper papers or not (the 
Senate 
> OKed payments to illegals on a close vote, but the House likely 
will 
> not).
> 
> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/05/business/05immigration.html
> 
> http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20060518-114132-2456r.htm>>>




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