--- In [email protected],
"tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> TorquiseB writes snipped:
> > Theoretical spiritual practice is just that, theory.
> > Applied spiritual practice is *applied*, one moment
> > at a time, all day, every day. Meditation without
> > mindfulness and the intention to bring the light of
> > that meditation into the world and share it with
> > others in every action is a waste of time. Better
> > to never meditate and spend the time of one's life
> > in "small gestures" of humanity than spend one's
> > life meditating regularly and never practicing any
> > such gestures. 
> 
> Tom T:
> According to Ramana Maharishi there are four ways to get 
> enlightened.
> 1. The Guru says your are THAT and you are done if you are ready.
> 2. The Gurus tries you are THAT and you are not ready so you go home
> and do the WHO AM I inquiry for a few years and then come back for
> your mahavayka.
> 3. If you can not do self inquiry into WHO AM I the guru tells you 
> to go home and meditate for a decade or two to get ready for the 
> WHO AM I.
> 4. If you are unable to meditate then go do good deeds for a few
> decades so you can be ready to meditate.
> 
> It would appear that a lot of the TMers started at step 3 and hadn't
> done enough or any of step 4 and are a few decades short of step 4.
> Ain't going to happen till you get your tank topped off at step 4. 

Not that I believe Ramana Maharshi had any more
clue than anyone else how to realize enlighenment,
but I certainly agree with your conclusion at the
end.



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