--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@>
wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin"
<jflanegi@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "tanhlnx" <tanhlnx@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --Vaj, you're attempting to divert attention from the
real
> > by
> > > > > > creating strawmen and bringing up practically
unattainable
> > > > > > goals.
> > > > > > For one thing, Gurus who have attained a Rainbow Light
Body
> > are
> > > > > > exceedingly rare, and I challenge you to bring up
instances
> > in
> > > > > > which
> > > > > > they regularly appear in people's dreams.
> > > > > > OTOH, countless people have experienced the Shakti of
MMY,
> > SBS,
> > > > > > and Ramana Maharshi.
> > > > >
> > > > > Again, just playing Deva's Advocate here, is it
> > > > > possible that what these countless numbers of
> > > > > people experienced was simple infinity, without
> > > > > form, and they *interpreted* it in the form of
> > > > > the teacher they were most familiar with?
> > > >
> > > > Why are you assuming people are always at the mercy of their
> > > > subconscious filters? Its a perspective you take a lot.
> > >
> > > Uh, possibly because I have never met an individual
> > > on this planet, *including* the ones I suspect of
> > > being enlightened, who did *not* have their filters
> > > firmly in place. It's just part of living.
> >
> > Granted, though it sounds to me as if you are insinuating
> > that people seeing Masters appearing to them are somehow
> > indulging in wishful thinking.
>
> Or they have an interesting completely abstract
> experience and, unable to cope with just having
> had a *completely* abstract experience, "convert"
> it to a more structured, finite experience in
> their minds, to easier get a handle on it. I'm
> just saying that it's a possibility, one that
> seems far more likely to me than the "Master"
> actually appearing.
>
I'd agree with you, except that all the accounts of this I have read
about happen as a complete and total surprise, not leaving time for
any conversion- the experience itself being mind blowing enough as
it is. Were it a completely abstract experience it would be easier
to integrate vs a Master appearing in form in front of you. Also
just to clarify, when I use Master it means master of reality, not
master over me.
