--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "at_man_and_brahman" 
> <at_man_and_brahman@> wrote:
> >
> > Unless you're part of the in-crowd, it's a waste
> > of time to post. Particularly if you intend to
> > write something substantive or original or both. 
> > FFL thrives on insults and "me-too" idiocy. 
> > 
> > I scan FFL every day, mainly to see the 0.1% of
> > posts the headlines of which indicate some
> > major news. I've been doing that for years.
> > 
> > On the rare occasion that I post something,
> > it is usually ignored, apparently because
> > there's nothing in it that fuels a personal
> > attack.
> > 
> > This as an example of the
> > normative forces of the world that seek
> > equilibrium between the mundane and the
> > sublime. It's why utopia or "islands of heaven
> > on earth" are impossible to sustain even if
> > they can be created. They cannot avoid
> > intermixture with the dystopias that surround
> > them, no matter how high their barriers to 
> > entry are built.
> 
> A genuine utopia would uplift people as they entered.

I agree. However, it would not have
perfectly distinct boundaries. It would
intermix with whatever existed outside
of it, the two realities seeking equilibrium
with each other. 

> 
> > 
> > FFL was a good idea, and like all good ideas it
> > attracted much to itself, most of it at a lower level.
> 
> As defined by whom?
>

By the person who made the assertion.

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