--- In [email protected], nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@>
> wrote:
> >
> > We have been exposed recently to selected TMer quotes from a
> > prominent Buddhist here on Fairfield Lifean effort which I have
> > consistently supported. Here is the other side of the coin-
Quotes
> > by Buddhists on Fairfield Life about Maharishi, the TM
community,
> > other spiritual masters, and Enlightenment, in their own words:
> >
> > [Buddhist to TMer] I know it's hardly Buddhist and compassionate
> and
> > spiritual and all, but sometimes I wish you'd actually find a
life
> > so that you didn't have to resort to these pathetic attempts to
get
> > attention. Either that or fuck off and die.
> >
> > [Buddhist on MMY] Read the archives of this list dude. Darth
Rishi
> > has a long history of forced micromanagement.
> >
> > [Buddhist on MMY] It sounds like he also is really into makeup
and
> > facial creams, etc. Rather unusual for a supposedly renounced
ego.
> >
> > [Buddhist on TMers] Let's face it: none of you would even be
> > acceptable in a cult dome. What, are we, your last resort?
> >
> > [Buddhist on MMY motivations] Doesn't it kinda remind you of
> > attempting to get people to come to the recent course by first
> > appealing to fear, and then, when that's a disaster trying to
make
> > them feel shame?
> >
> > [Buddhist on TMer mindset] What I've noticed, on this forum and
> many
> > others, is that the people who seem most emotionally involved in
> > putting down reports of other people's supposed spiritual
> > experiences DON'T seem to have any such experiences themselves.
> And
> > one of the things I've noticed about such compulsive throwers-of-
> > turds-at-spiritual-experience is that they all seem to be
terribly
> > AFRAID. The fear just reeks off of them.They're very different
in
> > their approaches and their particular "method" of turd-throwing,
> but
> > the one common denominator in all of them is the FEAR. So what
on
> > earth could they be so afraid of, eh? It's probably not the
> > experiences themselves. They've been paying big bucks to the TM
> > organization for years in the hope that it could give them those
> > experiences.
> >
> > [Buddhist on MMY] to ignore that his own desires for fame (and
> world
> > domination) were part of overall picture is to miss the larger
> > point. Yeah, he taught us all some nice basic teachings, but the
> > bottom line is that the only reason these teaching were so
diluted
> > and weak was because it was really all about "strategic market
> > placement". And it just happened that the fruits of said market
> > penetration also had some other benefits, other penetrations.
> >
> > [Buddhist to TMer] What a flaming asshole you are!
> >
> > [Buddhist to TMer] It's just that when you *are* acting like an
> > obsessed fuck, you don't exactly walk the walk of that talk very
> > well.
> >
> > [Buddhist on TMer mindset] Classic projection. When confronted
with
> > one's own doubts about one's spiritual practice, teacher, or
> > tradition, EXTERNALIZE them and project all the anger that one
> feels
> > towards ones self for feeling these doubts onto those who are
open
> > about having them, or worse, onto those who LAUGH at the doubts
and
> > at those who feel threatened about having them. And the deeper
the
> > doubts that the seeker of this type has, the worse they portray
the
> > externalized "enemy" to be.
> >
> > [Buddhist on Enlightenment] I have never met an individual on
this
> > planet, *including* the ones I suspect of being enlightened, who
> did
> > *not* have their filters firmly in place. It's just part of
living.
> >
> > [Buddhist on Ramana Maharishi] The only dirt on Ramana is that
HE
> IS
> > DIRT.
> >
> > [Buddhist on TMers on FFL] That doesn't sound much different
from
> an
> > Islamic terrorist. The list has been destroyed by insurgents,
quite
> > literally.
> >
> > [Buddhist on TMers on FFL] You react to different ideas --
> > consistently -- by trying to trash the other person, and by
> > practicing character assassination against the person who has
> > presented them.
> >
> > [same Buddhist (and former TM teacher) as above on quotes from
> TMers
> > he has collected, and TM mindset] These are the quotes of people
> > who, when they encounter someone who doesn't believe the same
> things
> > that they do, react consistently by practicing character
> > assassination on the "nonbeliever." That's a cult mindset, and
they
> > learned it from Maharishi and from the TM organization. And what
> > they're pissed off about most about this THINGS TMers BELIEVE
> series
> > is that I'm putting their display "on view" in front of
thousands
> of
> > *non* TMer spiritual seekers, who will see these fanatics'
behavior
> > as typical of TM practitioners. I'm suggesting that such people
> (the
> > authors of the quotes I'm reposting) very much ARE
representative
> of
> > TM and the thinking of Maharishi and the TM movement.
>
> Very nice job :-) On what sites will you publish this ?
>
Thanks- I'll post it as a comment to TM Free Blog, and may post it
on alt.transcendental.meditation but have to get an account on there
first I think.
