--- In [email protected], "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > I like MMY's: > > > > > > Spiritual and Material Values > > > > "Every experience has its level of physiology, and so unbounded > > awareness has its own level of physiology which can be measured. > > This is where I just don't grok the TM worldview. If you can measure > something, it is duality. What does mastering the ability to perform > feats of esoteric states of duality have to do with Self- Realization, > i.e., recognizing oneself as nondual?
He's saying that the nondual state is reflected in the physiology; it takes a unique state of the physiology to support that nondual state of awareness. You can measure the physiology *because* it is dualistic and thus get around the problem of not being able to measure the nondual state itself. It's a little like the tests that have been devised to determine when someone is dreaming. The dreaming state itself can't be measured because it's purely subjective, but you can measure the physiology and tell when someone is dreaming because a unique state of the physiology is highly correlated with reports of having dreamed. > And, what does "unbounded awareness" refer to in the TM > context? As I understand and use the term, "unbounded > awareness" refers to nondual awareness, and as such, is > not something that can be measured. Right. It's the physiological condition that is highly correlated with reports of the experience of unbounded awareness that can be measured, not that state itself. Obviously the validity of the premise depends on the validity of the assumptions, but that's the theory, as I understand it.
