--- In [email protected], "Patrick Gillam" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It's interesting how Bright Light Types sometimes 
> suffer despair before awakening. Buckminster 
> Fuller and Ekhart Tolle contemplated suicide, 
> Byron Katie raged, Maharishi was despondent. 
> And their responses were to serve others. 

First chapter of the Giitaa: arjuna-*viSaada*-yoga

viSAda m. (ifc. f. %{A}) drooping state , languor , lassitude 
Ma1lati1m. ; dejection , depression , despondency (esp. as the 
result of unrequited love) MaitrUp. MBh. Ka1v. &c. ; 
disappointment , despair (one of the Vyabhica1ras q.v.) Das3ar. 
Sa1h. ; aversion , disgust Bhartr2. ; fear , weakness MW. ; 
dulness , stupidity , insensibility (= %{moha}) ib. 

 
> --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "matrixmonitor" 
> > <matrixmonitor@> wrote:
> > >
> > > ---Yes, Tolle, Ramana, and Papaji are examples of individuals 
who 
> > > awakened more or less spontaneously without the need of prior 
> > > practices.  In a statistical curve, such persons are in the 
> > > 99.99999....% percentile.  The rest of us laggards need 
> > > good "techniques" like TM.
> > > 
> > Ha-Ha! Yes, the Universe in the form of daily activity, or 
Maharishi 
> > or Buddhas or Jesus or Ramana or Shiva or Vishnu or Ganesh or 
> > Krishna or Barahmananda Saraswati or [fill in the blank] is 
always 
> > ready to deliver a retort to those who say they have found "The 
One 
> > Way" to Awakening!
> > 
> > Interesting karma of those who awaken spontaneously. I imagine 
the 
> > conversation for them prior to this final incarnation in which 
they 
> > awaken spontaneously goes something like this: "OK, you're 
almost 
> > free. Just go down there one more time, and hang out for awhile. 
> > That's it, and liberation will be yours- no technique 
> > necessary..." "Really? Do I have to? OK, if you say so..." and 
off 
> > to earth they go.
> >
>


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