Comment below. --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "Rick Archer" <rick@> wrote: > > > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of authfriend > > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 10:55 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: THANKS 4 the new ff life tone 4 the > better & > > higher I feel. > > > > The big problem, and the greatest single contributor > > to excessive posting, is the bickering. Since you > > instituted the posting limit, there has been as much > > trashing--direct and oblique--of TM supporters here > > as there was before. The posting limit just restricts > > the ability of the TM supporters to defend themselves. > > > > Seems to me that trashers and trashees are limited equally. > > Yes, but there are far fewer of the "trashees"-- > especially now since three of them have left-- > and they haven't been the ones to initiate the > trashing. > > Consider: If five trashers spend one post each > attacking a trashee, if the trashee wants to > respond, it will take all five of the trashee's > allotted posts for the day to do so, but the > trashers each have four posts left. The trashers > know this. > > The posting limit, in other words, neatly hands > the advantage to the trashers. > > > If either wants > > to waste their quota on bickering, at least the other > > will know that it will end soon. I'm hoping people will > > say, hey, I've only got X posts left, and I'd rather > > talk about something more interesting than so-and-so's > > latest dig. After all, are there really any new points > > to make in attacking or defending one another? > > This is all very rational, Rick, but it just isn't the > way most people operate. (And I strongly suspect your > perspective would be a bit different if you had been > the target of dishonest and wildly unfair trashing day > in, day out, for years.) > > If you *want* TM critics to be able to freely trash > TM supporters, and *want* the TM supporters not to > be able to respond, the posting limit is just the > ticket. > > If you want, on the other hand, to stop the trashing > and the constant ill feeling and ugly atmosphere it > generates, the thing to do is sanction the trashers. > > If the trashing is stopped, or at least seriously > reduced, that will *automatically* reduce the overall > number of posts, without any posting limit required. > > As I've said before, in terms of the effects you say > you want, you've gone about this exactly backwards. > You've let this trashing go on for so long, it's going > to take some effort on your part now to stop it; the > posting limit is just a Band-Aid, and a pretty > ineffective one at that. (It also inhibits substantive > discussion and spontaneity. Sometimes offhand remarks > can generate the most interesting discussions. Posting > limits forestall that kind of serendipity.)
Rick, I really *hate* to have to waste one of my five posts to deal with this crap, but someone's got to do it. I think all this "trashing of TMers" this person is talking about is IMAGINARY. I've counted a few minor jibes since the "New FFL" started, NONE of them from me as far as I can tell, and NONE Of them worth getting one's knickers in a twist about. I'd like the person who believes that she and other TMers are being consistently "trashed" on this forum since the new program went into effect to PUT UP OR SHUT UP. TOMORROW (she's blessedly used up all her posts for today), have her waste one of her *own* posts by collecting a list of post numbers, the people who posted them, and the EXACT quotes that she considers "trashing TMers." I think that when she does the result will be gales of laughter from almost everyone here, as they realize the things she CONSIDERS "trashing TMers." I've been trying to be really, really good. As far as I know I have made NO posts in which I "trashed" a TMer. The worst I did was to make a few funny comments about how a few people here seem to have a problem counting to five. And *I* have not noticed this barrage of anti-TMer sentiment that Judy claims is happening. PUT UP OR SHUT UP, Judy. I'm *pissed* at you for making me waste one of my posts with this ongoing crap of yours. As far as I can tell, the only person here who misses the bickering is YOU. And that's why you keep trying to bring it up and start it all again. As someone said to Off, grow the fuck up. THIS POST, by the way, was NOT an instance of "trashing a TMer." It was an instance of trashing a fucking idiot who's acting like a five-year-old.
