--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "If I were to believe in a myth, it would be that
> individuals CAN change the world they find themselves
> in, right here, right now, and that imaginary cycles
> of time have nothing whatever to do with it.
> 
> "God's plan?" Man, I don't believe in a God, period,
> much less that he/she/it has a *plan*. The universe
> is Just What Happens, and we all MAKE it happen.
> We achieve what we believe we can achieve, and myths
> that seem to have been *designed* to make us believe
> that we can't achieve very much because it's "Kaliyuga"
> just don't float my boat."
> 

> Since I can't improve on what you just wrote I'll just say "what he
> said!"  It should be made into a poster!  That's empowerment.

<snip>
> > --- In [email protected], Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote:
<snip>
> > > And before that, I made believe that this isn't really Kali 
> > > Yuga, and that I was a doer with potency, and that if we all 
> > > just got enough silence, we'd turn into good people.  But
> > > then I found out that a "good" person in Kali Yuga is the one
> > > that manifests God's plan: which is to manifest KALI YUGA!
> > > God wants to see every kind of darkness now -- and He's got
> > > us creating it all.  And if we help out, we're the good guys,
> > > doncha see?  If we resist, well, that's just so Kali Yuga
> > > can snuff the resisters -- no matter how many yagyas they
> > > do.

Q:  Maharishi, if everything is, as you say, perfect
just as it is, why are we working so hard to change
things?

A:  That too is perfect just as it is.


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