On Apr 17, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:

>> Much of the focus of the TMO over the years I was involved (and I
> have
>> no reason to think it's changed, in fact it might even be more so
> now)
>> seems to be to put as much in between people and their children as
> they
>> can, or even between married couples:  accepting one person to a
> course
>> but not the other, insisting people come to the Domes during the
> best
>> part of the day for parents and kids to be together, and on and
> on.
>> Basically forcing them to choose.
>>
>
> **snip to end**
>
> Sal, your last paragraph is an expression, I think, of the fact that
> Maharishi never really understood or intrinsically valued the
> householder life,

And I think that sums up really well why most of us are no longer 
involved any more.

> despite the fact that his self-perceived mission
> was to bring the practice of meditation to those of us "in the
> world".

And I also think he gets a lot of credit for realizing that 
Americans/Westerners lead lives that were way too fast and needed to 
slow down a bit.

> Although the basic 2x/day meditation is valuable in the
> context of everyday life,

It's very valuable, and I'd say is the main thing many of us were 
attracted to.

> most or all of his advanced programs
> reflect a default position that places primary emphasis on the
> individual's sadhana, distinct from, and in conflict with, the duties
> and demands of family and the larger community.  It really can make
> it difficult.

Very difficult.  Plus I think a lot of people didn't notice the kids of 
benefits they thought would come from 2+ hours of meditation/day.  I 
know I didn't, but I still practiced the Siddhis faithfully for over 10 
years.

>
> A lot of us, in our late teens and early 20s, essentially followed
> the traditional eastern pattern of living a monk's/nun's life for a
> brief period (TTC, sidhi and other long rounding courses) before
> entering the world as productive and (to one degree or another)
> spiritually grounded adults.  But many of us lingered, and obviously
> some still do, on the margins of two lifestyles in which we
> weren't/they aren't really living one or the other; and,
> consequently, garnering little fruit from either.  (Limbo lower now.)
>

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