--- In [email protected], t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], new.morning <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], t3rinity <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > <big snip>
> > > 
> > > > Recruit
> > > > them from kids who grew up on the myths created by people
> > > > like Gandhi or Buddha or Martin Luther King, and who can
> > > > thus think of more than two solutions to the problems of
> > > > the world. 
> > > 
> > > Why the Buddha? Buddha wasn't shot, he just died of poisoned 
> > > meat.
> > 
> > Do you mean "meat gone bad", that is rancid, spoiled, and thus
> > food-poisoning? Or do you mean someone put poison in his meat?
> 
> The former. I just had meant to say, that Buddha somewhat 
> stands out from Gandhi or Martin Luther King as he wasn't 
> shot, and these are the guys meaningful writers are supposed 
> to turn to in order to prevent insane shooting. 

I'm going to have to respond to this one, even though
I don't really want to waste a post on it.

I am sitting here completely mindboggled to think that
anyone -- much less t3rinity -- could imagine that the
thing I thought "connected" Gandhi and Buddha and Martin
Luter King was that two of the three were shot. I am
rendered almost speechless by this. But not quite. :-)

What I had in mind when I wrote my earlier rant about
the myth-formers of our age was that the thing that 
connected these three guys was that they THOUGHT
OUT OF THE BOX.

Whereas most of the human beings of their respective
eras looked at the world around them and saw only a 
few limited options -- for example, killing the person
whose actions you don't like or putting them in jail --
these three guys saw other options.

All three of them looked at the Same Problems and saw
Other Solutions. None of the solutions they saw had
to rely on violence and the perpetuation of it. *That*
is what makes them "related" in my mind, not what may
or may not have happened to them. Same thing for John
Lennon, who someone else brought up.

What makes these guys interesting is NOT what Other
People might have done to them as a result of what they
stood for, but what they stood for. They stood for NOT
SETTLING for all the things we've been taught all our
lives to settle for, often by people we consider spir-
itual teachers. Think Krishna. As Vyasa tells the story
of the Bhagavad-Gita, Krishna is basically the counterpart 
in his age of a lobbyist/cheerleader for Bush, Cheney Inc. 
He's trying to convince Arjuna that the way to attain his 
spiritual goals is to *not* question authority, to go to 
war and kill as many other human beings as he can in it, 
and to basically Do What He's Been Told To Do By The 
Folks Who Run The Status Quo.

Compare and contrast to the three guys I mentioned, who 
stood for trying to find a NEW solution to the age-old 
problems that confront the residents of planet Earth. 
These guys all stood for looking at the world as "we," 
not as "them vs us." They stood for not taking life so 
seriously, not for Taking Life, Seriously.



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