purushaz wrote: > nitpicking the details won't change the overall > conclusion. > What details? Oh, so now I'm the nitpicker after Rick brought up the subject again, but you're not nit-picking for responding to my nitpicking.
Go figure. > MMY has some chinks in his armor, and he's by no > means "impeccable" in the Castaneda-ian sense. > Well, why not post a single report from any of the main eight Indian media outlets where there has ever been an accusation about MMY having sex with female students. The Indian press usually doesn't just ignore such stories, so why not just link us to a single one, so we can read it for ourselves and then decide. Just one. I mean, give me a break - Ken Wilber's parents started TM. Don't you think he'd be alerting them if this were true? He's got a blog so I guess if he knew about anything improper we could read about the details there, right? Have you ever attended a Ken Wilber forum - I have. Have you read Ken Wilber's 'Spiritual Choices'? http://tinyurl.com/2hn8dd > Who are some impeccable Gurus? > 1. Guru Dev > 2. Ramana Maharshi > 3. Namkhai Chogyal Rinpoche > 4. Sri Aurobindo > 5. Possibly SSRS > 6. Ammachi, and the various "Divine Mothers"; > such as Karunamayi. I don't see anything wrong > with counting the numbers of people Amma > hugs. > 7. Various Sages of the past: Ramakrishna, > Sakyamuni Buddha and countless Sages of Tibet > and India. > 8. Jesus, definitely!. > > We can construct a very lengthy list of > impeccable Gurus, but I wouldn't put MMY on it. > Well, obviously you're far from being a devotee, but it's obvious you're a dilletante. > Nevertheless, the technique of TM > is "ppppuuurrrrffffeeeecccctttt".! > MMY never made the claim to be a "guru" and the TM technique can stand by itself. But, with the exception of maybe Ammachi, you probably haven't even met any of the other "impeccable gurus" that you mention. And even if you did, what would lead you to assume that they're impeccable? What's up with that? > > Richard J. Williams wrote: > > > > So, she is saying that MMY was celibate up to > > > > the age of 68, then, for one year he wasn't > > > > celibate, then from 1969 till today he was > > > > celibate. So, he must have had sexual relations > > > > with females for a year, yet neither Ms Pittman > > > > nor Nandi Keshore, Magic Alex, John, Paul, George, > > > > Ringo, Mike, Donovan or any skin boy or personal > > > > secretary, such as Tom Anderson, ever saw him > > > > actually doing it, even with the door wide open > > > > and with thousands of students passing by on a > > > > daily basis for over fifty years. And that the > > > > Indian press never suspected a thing. > > > > > > > > Now that is impressive for a 106 year old man! > > > > > > Billy wrote: > > > When 'the reporter stated' the below comment he > > > was refering to MMY 'in 1981' (the date of the > > > article) though it's a little confusing because > > > it is in italic type print in the newspaper > > > article. He should have said the 'now' 68 year > > > old MMY...at any rate the rest of your comment > > > checks out! > > > > > So, Billy, Mia got the MMY down into a dark > > cave underneath his house and tried to wrestle > > him down to the floor for a quick one. Then she > > writes a book, Not Fade Away, describing her > > relations with Frank Sinatra and Woody Allen, > > but in it she writes that MMY tried to give > > her a hairy bear hug. And Cynthia Lennon > > writes a book, Twist of Lennon, in which she > > totally discredits Magic Alex and John Lennon. > > And Paul McCartney says the rumors are bollocks. > > > > Now we have Linda expecting us to believe that > > MMY got her into bed on numerous occasions. And > > this is the extent of the published evidence that > > MMY had sexual relations with any females! And > > not a single word from any of the eight main > > Indian media outlets in over fifty years. And > > not a single eye-witness who is credible. And > > not a single person has ever cross-examined MMY. > > > > But my questions is, why on earth would MMY > > need to have sex with Linda when he had Ms > > Pittman? And why on earth would he need a > > personal secretary when he had Nandi Keshore? > > And why would he need a skin boy when he had > > Satyanand? > > > > Ned Wynn spent all of what, about five minutes > > in a one-on-one encounter with MMY in Italy > > and Ned carried MMY's antelope skin back to > > the house for all of about one minute. I'd > > probably guess that most people responding > > here probably never got more than within > > fifteen feet of the MMY in their entire life. > > And I'm beginning to think that not a single > > respondent on this forum has been inside a MMY > > Golden Dome in years. Go figure. > > >
