> --- In [email protected], "Patrick Gillam" <jpgillam@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm more worried about the bees going away than I am with the 
Christ
> > coming back. What does Creme say about honeybees?

Nothing, as far as I know. But anyone can post questions to Mr. Creme 
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> > > --- In nablusoss1008 wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "Patrick Gillam" 
> <jpgillam@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "In 1923 Rudolf Steiner predicted the dire state of today's 
> > > honeybee.
> > > > He stated that, within fifty to eighty years, we would see the
> > > > consequences of mechanizing the forces that had previously 
> operated
> > > > organically in the beehive. Such practices include breeding 
> queen 
> > > bees
> > > > artificially.
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.steinerbooks.org/detail.html?id=0880104570
> > > > 
> > > > Patrick writing: Steiner is said to have said in a lecture 
> > > that "that
> > > > which we experience within ourselves only at a time when our 
> hearts
> > > > develop love is actually the very same thing that is present 
as 
> a
> > > > substance in the entire beehive. The whole beehive is 
permeated 
> with
> > > > life based on love. In many ways the bees renounce love, and 
> thereby
> > > > this love develops within the entire beehive."
> > > > 
> > > > Back to the book review:
> > > > 
> > > > "The fact that over sixty percent of the American honeybee 
> > > population
> > > > has died during the past ten years, and that this trend is 
> > > continuing
> > > > around the world, should make us aware of the importance of 
the 
> > > issues
> > > > discussed in these lectures. Steiner began this series of 
> lectures 
> > > on
> > > > bees in response to a question from an audience of workers at 
> the
> > > > Goetheanum.
> > > > 
> > > > "From physical depictions of the daily activities of bees to 
> the 
> > > most
> > > > elevated esoteric insights, these lectures describe the 
> unconscious
> > > > wisdom of the beehive and its connection to our experience of 
> > > health,
> > > > culture, and the cosmos.
> > > > 
> > > > "Rudolf Steiner (Feb. 27, 1861–Mar. 30, 1925) was born in 
> Kraljevic,
> > > > Austria, where he grew up the son of a railroad station 
chief. 
> As a
> > > > young man, he lived in Weimar and Berlin, where he became a 
> > > respected
> > > > and well-published scientific, literary, and philosophical 
> scholar,
> > > > known especially for his work on Goethe's scientific 
writings. 
> At 
> > > the
> > > > beginning of the twentieth century, he began to develop his 
> earlier
> > > > philosophical principles into an approach to methodical 
> research of
> > > > psychological and spiritual phenomena. Steiner formally began 
> his
> > > > spiritual teaching career under the auspices of the 
Theosophical
> > > > Society, later referring to his spiritual research results and
> > > > philosophy as "Anthroposophy," or spiritual science. His 
> > > multifaceted
> > > > genius has led to innovative and holistic approaches in 
> medicine,
> > > > philosophy, religion, education (Waldorf schools), special 
> education
> > > > (the Camphill movement), economics, agriculture (biodynamics),
> > > > science, architecture, and the arts (drama, speech and 
> eurythmy). In
> > > > 1924 he founded the General Anthroposophical Society, which 
has
> > > > branches throughout the world. He died in Dornach, 
Switzerland.
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.steinerbooks.org/detail.html?id=0880104570
> > > 
> > > Very interesting post; thank you Patrick! However the great 
> influence 
> > > Steiner has had in many fields in the Western world his 
followers 
> are 
> > > somewhat caught up in the past, as the following from Benjamin 
> Creme 
> > > might explain :
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Q. Aren't there some other disciples who could be working as 
you 
> do 
> > > to make known the Christ's presence? (Europe)
> > > A. There are five people who you might have thought would be 
key 
> > > people in the 4,000 people involved in this work around the 
> world: 
> > > one in New York, me in London, one in Geneva, one in 
Darjeeling, 
> one 
> > > in Tokyo, all chosen to be the first presenters. Around them 
> would 
> > > gather more, so that it would become a worldwide happening. 
This 
> > > information would be coming from five points across the world 
> from 
> > > New York to Tokyo, a brilliant plan, except that the one in New 
> York 
> > > does not believe. He has been to my lectures several times but 
> does 
> > > not believe the story. I am the one in London. The one in 
Geneva, 
> > > like the one in New York, does not believe the story. They are 
> both 
> > > Christian mystics, influenced by people like Steiner who died 
> before 
> > > the plan that it would be the Christ Himself was finalized. 
> Steiner 
> > > was adamant that the Christ could not return in a physical body 
> and 
> > > thought that when the Christ Principle awakened sufficiently in 
> the 
> > > hearts of men, then we could say the Christ is in the world. 
This 
> is 
> > > only one aspect of the Reappearance of the Christ. People who 
> follow 
> > > Steiner have closed their minds to the very possibility of the 
> > > Reappearance of the Christ as a physical man in the world, 
quite 
> > > apart from all the 40 or so Masters Who are likewise coming. 
They 
> > > have done a disservice to the event. 


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