--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "matrixmonitor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ---there's no evidence for much of this crap. More succintly, one > should not confuse what happens to the body (say, ultimate biological > purification; where the body supposedly dissolves into Light - the > Rainbow Light Body); with Self-Realization. > Of course, there is a foundation of tacit assumptions here: in order > to discuss this issue intelligently, certain agreements are necessary > without offering proof. > Namely, we can assume that (1) Sakyamuni Buddha was Enlightened. > (2) Next, Ramana Maharshi was Enlightened. Obviously, RM must have > been, since Eckhart Tolle became Enlightened through the inspiration > of RM. The poster below seems to hold Tolle in high esteem. > However, Ramana Maharshi - as the ultimate Source of Neo-Advaitin- > ism - was essentially a Nihilist who believed that the physical body > was just excess baggage to be gotten rid of. > The poster below then conflates the concept of bodily Translation > with Self-Realization. Bodily Translation (attaining a Rainbow Light > Body), is a particular Siddhi; not directly connected to > Enlightenment, although Enlightenment precedes the acquisition of a > Rainbow Light body in relative time, from the data we have. > By way of example, Ramana Maharshi was Enlightened (as well as > Ramakrishna), but these individuals placed no special importance on > biological purification, and simply died of cancer. Padma Sambhava > OTOH, was Enlightened but according to the traditional account, > attained a Rainbow Light Body. > I see no evidence that Eckhart Tolle surpasses Ramana Maharshi in > any category. > Thus, the previous post is highly speculative and fanciful. As to > MMY, I would place his name along with that of SBS as being in the > category of those "tacitly assumed to be Enlightened", without > further investigation. > The fact that MMY seems to have rather oddball viewpoints in topics > such as economics, and many of his project are not followed through > to fruition is beside the point of Enlightenment. > To conclude, some of the properties of evolution the poster alludes > to are peripheral to Enlightenment, nevertheless quite important in > the context of further biological evolution.
Nicely put. When this Lsoma fellow describes Maharishi as "growing towards CC" one can not but agree to your description of his post as "highly speculative and fanciful" written by someone who probably never met the man and/or was sleeping while viewing tapes of the same. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Lsoma@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > QUESTIONS FROM THE COLLECTIVE/Lou Valentino > > > > > > According to MMY the seven states of consciousness can be > > experienced while > > > in a physical body. Is this true? > > > > > > NO. One can have intervals of experiencing TC, CC or GC. Full > > experience of > > > CC would mean you have at least entered the sixth dimension after > > physical > > > death or are in the higher levels of the sixth. When we > transcend > > we are > > > experiencing the upper sixth dimensional vibration. Once you > have > > mastered the first > > > six dimensions and enter the 7th then you have established a > > permanent state > > > of GC. The seventh dimension is where the masters of the lower > six > > planes > > > reside in GC. Guru Dev is in the beginning levels of the sixth > as > > well as SSRS. > > > Ammachi is stepping into the sixth. This is where heart starts > to > > take over- > > > In the upper fifth to beginning of the sixth. Mother Meera is > from > > the > > > seventh as well as Ekhart Tolle (Very rare). Only three seventh > > dimensional > > > masters are in physical embodiment presently GC. > > > > > > Waking, dreaming and sleeping belong to the third and fourth > > dimensions. > > > (Non-Meditators mostly) > > > > > > TC along with the other three combine experiences of the fifth > and > > sixth > > > dimensions. Bodies are etheric in the fifth and sixth. > > > > > > GC is the seventh dimension. Golden light is everywhere and you > are > > able to > > > read the Akashic Records > > > > > > UC is the 12th where the subject and object are no longer > involved. > > A > > > compete merging with the absolute. > > > > > > Meditators are growing towards CC and as MMY has said in SCI you > > can have > > > experiences of the other states of awareness at different times. > > UC is without > > > a physical or etheric body however. > > > > > > Is MMY enlightened? NO. Is Deepak Chopra? NO. Bevin Morris? NO, > NO. > > John > > > Hagelin? NO. > > > > > > MMY is from the third level of the fifth dimension. He is still > > growing > > > towards CC. This is the reason why he only see's the structure of > > his > > > organization being so important. More important than taking care > of > > the soul's that are > > > involved in creating his organization. The reason why many leave > > out of human > > > frustration due is lack of attention to personal feelings and a > > rush to save > > > the world without looking who he is stepping on. But, he still is > > the best > > > meditation teacher on this planet. Lsoma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
