--- In [email protected], "Alex Stanley" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], bob_brigante <no_reply@> 
wrote:
> >
> > the joy of drinking...
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/06/books/review/Harris.t.html
> 


> The reality of drinking...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgiZp3LDRNg
>

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As Turq B said in this thread:

"In the absence of technologies such as meditation,
bars are where humans go to shift their state of
attention. Most of the humans on this planet are
unaware of technologies such as meditation. There-
fore, in my book, bars are interesting. That's
where you would go if you were a seeker who had
found no other way to shift your state of attention."
*
It's no good to "just say no" to alcohol and other drugs because 
people have needs that they will seek to meet. I quit alc after a few 
months of TM because that need to reduce anxiety was met by TM, and 
this is the usual response to consistent practice of TM, verified by 
studies of reduction of drug use by TMers (although I do know long-
time TMers who are still into sauce or pot or whatever, but they are 
the rare exceptions).

Bob

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