--- In [email protected], "BillyG." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> wrote:
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> > I've heard this stuff for awhile, and I think it is due to improper 
> > practice of the sutra. If someone is straining and not just 
> > naturally going with the specific effects of the sutra, I can see 
> > how all sorts of physical problems would result, simply because they 
> > aren't doing the program as taught. 
> > 
> > I would venture that teaching *anything* of a spiritual nature to 
> > seekers has its risks, because seekers want to get further along, 
> > and particularly in the West, where we are taught to strive and to 
> > push to achieve our success, I can see how some people might think 
> > that such unnatural effort may benefit them spiritually. (A good way 
> > to get killer headaches too, during meditation.)
> > 
> > However, when practiced correctly and innocently (not holding a gun  
> > to God's head, so to speak), there is no danger of injury. I 
> > remember several times when doing the flying sutra I would bang my 
> > knee hard on concrete, smack into someone, or fly into something. 
> > There is a phenomenon associated with the flying technique when done 
> > correctly, whereby I can only conclude that the stuff the body is 
> > made of appears to be more loosely coupled or more akin to 
> > consciousness vs. physical form. The result being that I never 
> > experienced any sort of permanent injury during my practice of my 
> > flying technique, and I was a consistent high flyer, practicing the 
> > technique for ~15 years.
> > 
> > No need to throw the baby out with the bathwater on this one- just 
> > practice the technique as taught, and don't be so desperate for 
> > results.
> 
> Well...I hope you are right although one persons account hardly leads
> to a conclusion of any sort.

Headaches may come from mental straining; spinal and knee damage comes
from landing on your butt in lotus.  If you have no damage from
hopping on your butt, fine, the physical and subtle body effects will
vary widely by body type.  I'm encouraging people who have had damage
to listen to their body.

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