--- In [email protected], "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>wrote:
>
> Is there ever a real audience present I wonder, of non-meditators. 
>In 
> the middle of listening to the live conference - MMY speaking at 
>the 
> moment. Just listening for my own benefit it's OK I guess - I'm 
> keeping in touch with developments; occasionally there is something 
> new or that makes more sense; but mostly seems too repetive - heard 
> it all before etc. So for instance today the theme is about 
> consciousness based education developing the whole brain. There is 
> lots of interesting stuff, but one would like to see more a 
> documentary approach - seeing snipets of real lessons, pupil views, 
> more examples of how non-scientific subjects are represented in the 
> unified field charts etc.
> 
> But then I think what if I were an educator attending such a 
> conference for the very first time and having never heard of TM or 
> the unified field even.. These presentations supposedly are to 
> attract interest in what is on offer. However(a) now the problem is 
> that there is SO MUCH information that is relevant but will be 
> COMPLETELY new to the audience; (b) how to present this in a way 
>that 
> will make most sense to THEM, so that in spite of their natural 
> misgivings they can relate to the message and see its value; and(c) 
> what is it they NEED practically to go away afterwards with 
>concrete 
> examples and strategies for communicating their understanding AND 
> persuading authorities to take this innovation more seriously.
> 
> I really don't think that the format of these presentations is 
>likely 
> to favour such outcomes. Firstly Haglin's equations are barely 
> understandable by people familiar with his talks and are 
> incomprehensible to educators even in the science disciplines. 
>Their 
> natural reaction would be deefensive - well that's YOUR 
> interpretation (and they are right). Secondly MMY comes in and 
>spends 
> ages going round in obscure circles this time from the perspective 
>of 
> Veda - usually one remembers AH and BRUM because repeated a lot, 
>but 
> otherwise complete beginners would have NO IDEA about what the 
>Vedic 
> tradition is - most educators these days don't even know much about 
> their own Bible (if Christian). So after hearing a long 
> winded "mathematical" discussion they don't unders have to endure 
> Maharishi's Vedic take, another alien element. The Morris comes in 
> and instead of relating what has been said to the audience's needs 
> simply punishes them with another REPEAT of the previous speakers' 
> main points. 
> 
> Personally I think the TMO would benefit ENORMOUSLY from 
>focus groups 
> for each sector of society they wish to engage with. 

>Unfortunately 
>they see no value from feedback whatsoever, seeing wisdom an up-down 
 >process only!!
> 
> Even with the Central University plan why would students from the 
> SAME State want to spend all their time with fellow citizens, in 
> segregated campuses - the whole point of a university is to mix 
>with 
> others from different backgrounds and gain something extra from the 
> cross-fertilization. NOBODY has bothered to look at it from the 
>point 
> of view of the STUDENT.
> 
> No surprise then that these conferences pay no attention to the 
>point 
> of view of the AUDIENCE!!!
> 

Yes, honest blasphemy Claudiouk.  I listen to the broadcasts too from 
the local MUM radio in my shop for the same reasons & often wonder 
the similar things that you do here.  

Many may dare not too freely express what you are here for fear of 
being found 'negative' by some friends here.  That is the dynamics of 
being in the meditator community here.  I think you are very brave to 
freely think these thoughts and publish them.

-Doug in FF

>Unfortunately 
>they see no value from feedback whatsoever, seeing wisdom an up-down 
 >process only!!


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