On May 15, 2007, at 9:51 AM, claudiouk wrote:
"Is Consciousness the Unified Field?" - if consciousness is truly most fundamental, there IS a need to relate it to the most fundamental laws of physics, because presently it is being ignored altogether.
One wonders if you have read this type of literature, because I've read numerous other hypotheses in this regard, so it's far from being ignored.
As for the limits and incomprehensibility of Hagelin's metaphors or equivalences, surely the same could be said of the Vedas - in spite of countless commentaries it remains a rather obscure philosophy/manual of consciousness.
Have you read the Vedas? Is that what they really are, manuals of consciousness? You must've read a different Veda than I did then.
In the end nothing but "realization" itself will do.. But I think you are both being too harsh on Hagelin.. He is making valiant efforts to interpret those equations in novel ways, as windows to the properties of the unified field.
No, he was read the riot act by his guru: either come up with a unified field/quantum answer for consciousness/TM/TMSP to support what I say or you're out of here.
He stayed.
Like us looking at the behaviour of someone and figuring out underlying propensities? The discussion on the equations reflecting the non-duality of unity I thought ADDED to my understanding of nonduality I had come across previously from similar statements made by individuals or in scriptures.
Of course, if you even find the idea of consciousness as a unified field tenable.