--- In [email protected], "Richard J. Williams" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> John wrote:
> > As an extension of Chopra's analogy, we can say 
> > that if one has not reached cosmic consciousness, 
> > then the phenomenal world is an illusion or Maya 
> > due to the effects of the gunas.
> > 
> The point I was trying to make, John, is that if 
> Purusha, the Transcendental Person, is part and 
> parcel of the relative world of prakriti and subject 
> to the three gunas, then, according to Shankara, 
> the highest God, Creator Brahm, is just an illusion 
> - a result of Maya, thus not real. >>

You are mistaken, the creator brahm is not the highest god. 
Mahalakshmi is.

OffWorld

<If God is an 
> illusion and not real, then there is no Transcendental 
> Person in the absolute sense. You must admit that this 
> is a significant conundrum and probably the reason why 
> all the Upanishadic commentators ascribed to either 
> dualism, quasi-dulaism, or qualified dualsism - 
> Ramanuja, Madhva, Vallaba, Nimbarka, and Chaitanya, 
> instead of adwaita. While all these acharyas were 
> transcendentalists, they did not agree with Shankara 
> concerning the Absolute nature of the Purusha. In 
> fact, as pointed out by Vaj, the notion that Brahman 
> is an unmanifest and impersonal Absolute without 
> attributes is almost pure Middle Way Buddhism 
> (Madyamika). It is very difficult to relate on a 
> personal level to a non-person and at the same time 
> call that person God, who is obviously a Person, 
> by definition, according to the Upanishads.
>


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