--- In [email protected], "mainstream20016" 
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>
> Mark,
>         First of all, congratulations, for living in Colorado.  I 
hope you experience the 
> inspirational beauty of the Rockies every day.  I long ago vowed 
that I would live
> in Colorado when I got my life together. I'm not there yet, but 
perhaps one day I'll 
>  live NW of Boulder, perhaps in or near Ward, or Allenspark.  Where 
in Colorado do you 
> live?  
>         Anyway, back to your inquiry.  I'm no money pro, but like 
so many, I regard my own 
> opinion highly, and I'd like to offer my $.02 regarding your 
inquiry 'home loan alternative'.
> The stated concept, as I understand it, is to simplify the 
administration of debt service and 
> maximize the use of your money.  The stategy is accomplished by 
creation of an account 
> to which all streams of income are directed and from which all debt 
service is paid. Such 
> an account would be created at the same time that you create a new 
mortgage, specifically 
> a Home Equity Line of Credit. ( HELOC ).  
>           Practically speaking, you'd take out a HELOC, the 
proceeds of which would pay off 
> the existing mortgage completely.  Additionally, you would direct 
all streams of income 
> (direct deposit of paycheck, etc) into the new administrative 
account.  Likewise, you would 
> authorize the administrative account to make payments on the HELOC 
and to service non-
> residential debt on a regular basis. ( school loan debt, car loan 
debt, credit card debt, etc.)  
> The concept is marketed to you as a means of paying principal owed 
on the residential 
> debt in an earlier fashion than you understand is available to you 
now with your current 
> mortgage.  The administrative account would accomplish this by 
frequently (perhaps 
> daily?) making additional principal payments on your residential 
loan from whatever 
> excess funds remain in the administrative account after the monthly 
cycle of debt service 
> has been satisfied.  
> I find the concept laudable, and simple to administer from your 
side, but I would have
> some discomfort about the frequent transactions and the accuracy of 
the additional small 
> extra principal payments.  There are simpler, surer ways to 
accomplish your goal of 
> accelerated principal payments.  
>           What is not clear to me is whether you realize the high 
degree of probability that 
> you can already make additional principal payments to your existing 
mortgage.
>           You stated that at the time that you bought the house, 
you borrowed $100K for the 
> $233K purchase.  That means that your down payment was $133K, 
right ?  That is a 
> significant down payment, and I don't understand how you must wait 
10 years before 
> being able to make any principal payments against the balance 
borrowed at the time of 
> purchase, unless your mortgage requires only interest-only payments 
for the first 10 
> years. In any event, I don't think you can be penalized for pre-
paying principal. 
>           Back to the concept of the loan you inquired about -  
What is not mentioned in the 
> article is the nature of HELOC loans, but I would strongly suggest 
you think clearly before 
> you make a HELOC loan, particularly if your commendable goals of 
reducing debt early are 
> as stated, as HELOC loans are like crack cocaine to an 
undisciplined borrower. Their 
> primary effect as a profitable financial product is to tempt 
homeowners to finance current 
> living with long-term debt.  The line of credit can increase with 
increases in the value of 
> the home, and many people  over the past decade have continued to 
draw from the HELOC 
> as housing prices rose, again, funding current expenditures with 
the HELOC, which was 
> increased with increasing equity of a booming housing market.  
Although long-term 
> appreciation is a reality for real estate, I would not be surprised 
if the value of real estate 
> remains flat for a decade or more, and perhaps the recent 
significant declines in real 
> estate value will continue for a good part of the next decade, as 
well.  Houses are a good 
> place to rest, but not necessarily a good investment vehicle, 
particularly if one buys at the 
> peak of a market.
>            I would suggest avoiding the temptation of a HELOC loan 
by refusing to be enticed.
> Re-read you loan document to determine if there are any 
prohibitions against pre-
> payment of principal. I doubt it. There are safer ways to pay the 
principal early than a 
> HELOC.  Create an amortization schedule for your existing loan - 
just Google 'home-loan 
> amortization schedule'.  Type in your loan rate, and term, and 
you'll discover the principal
> payment each month for your existing loan. If you want to decrease 
the life of your loan by 
> half, say, from 30 to 15 years, each month simply make an 
additional principal payment 
> for the amount of principal that will be due on the next month's 
payment schedule. Each 
> month, the amount will increase slightly, but the earlier in the 
life of the loan you start, the 
> greater impact your additional principal payment.   By making 
additional payments to the 
> principal balance, you can save tremendous amounts of money over 
the life of the loan, 
> and shorten the length of time it will take you to be mortgage-free.
>      An article follows, but I wouldn't go near the HELOC plan.
> -mainstream
> 
> 
> http://www.troubleshooter.com/ConsumerInformation/ColumnDetails.cfm?
> ColumnID=733
> MY BANK, MY LOAN, MY WAY
> by - Matt Klaess
> American Guaranty Mortgage
> April 11, 2007
> A new mortgage comes to the United States, a different type of 
mortgage that allows the 
> borrower the flexibility to manage his assets and liabilities. All 
of the borrowers hard 
> earned money that may be sitting in a checking or savings account 
earning little or no 
> interest, can now be used to reduce the amount of interest paid on 
their largest debt – 
> their mortgage. Without changing any monthly spending habits or 
making extra monthly 
> payments towards principal on your mortgage, this product will 
allow you to manage your 
> cash flow like never before and pay off your mortgage.
>  
> The premise of this loan is that borrowers finance the purchase of 
a home or refinance an 
> existing loan with a 1st mortgage HELOC (home equity line of 
credit). Borrowers then 
> begin directly depositing their monthly cash flow (direct deposit 
paychecks, income from 
> other sources, etc.) in their mortgage account or HELOC. Monthly 
expenses, other than 
> mortgage payments, are funded by draws against your available 
funds, just like a checking 
> account, using auto bill paying, ATM withdrawals or a credit card 
tied to your account. The 
> borrower's cash flow is then applied to reduce the principal of 
your mortgage on a daily 
> basis which reduces the amount of interest you pay. The compounding 
effect of this 
> product can easily knock 15 years off your mortgage, compared to 
the typical mortgage 
> where interest is all paid up front in the first 15 years. This 
product will allow the borrower 
> to lower their monthly mortgage payment every single monthÂ…..that's 
right, lower their 
> payment every month.
>  
> There are other great advantages to this product and it is 
something that needs to be 
> explained by a mortgage professional that is trained in this 
product and how it works.
> 

mainstream20016

This is great information. I'll check it out carefully. I really need 
to call my bank and find out about paying the principle down and how 
this would effect the overall interest on the loan. There are no pre 
payment penalities.

When you do move to Colorado, contact me and I'll show you around. I 
know the Boulder area but not exactly the towns you mentioned. We 
live in Fort Collins which is around 40 minutes north of Boulder. 
Fort Collins is a town which is backed up against the low lying 
Rockies unlike Boulder which is backed right into the soaring hights 
of the mountains. Fort Collins reminds me of the US the way it was in 
the 60s, very nice people, very clean town, simple life, four 
moderate seasons, very comfortable, cheap housing (for now, get it 
while it's cheap!) and overall a perfect place to settle and raise a 
family. Thanks again for the loan information and I hope to see you 
soon.

Mark

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