John wrote:
> Bhairitu,
>
>   
>> First off in terms of body chemistry people living in tropical 
>>     
> zones 
>   
>> near the equator might have their blood go too acid eating meat and 
>> drinking liquor which would bring on many health problems.  Hence 
>>     
> those 
>   
>> who did not indulge in these things did better living there and 
>>     
> survived 
>   
>> passing on those genes.  OTOH, folks living in northerly climes 
>>     
> like 
>   
>> northern Europe actually survived with "portable" food such as meat 
>>     
> and 
>   
>> the liquor they drank kept them from getting sick as water could be 
>> contaminated leading to disease and the alcohol kept away the bad 
>> parasites and organisms.  The meat help balance the blood Ph as a 
>> vegetarian diet could lead to too alkaline blood leading to other 
>>     
> health 
>   
>> problems.  Again those who were strong passed on those genes.
>>     
>
> You've made an interesting biological point.  However, I believe the 
> rule about not eating meat has something to do with respect for other 
> living beings.  According to adherents of the vedic culture, eating 
> meat can bring bad karma for the population, such as the 
> preponderence for violence and wars.
>   
Probably nonsense.   We really don't have any kind of good record as to 
what really happened in a "Vedic Culture."  Vegetarians can be violent 
too.  Fact is you don't need these tapas to be enlightened and that's 
what really counts.
> The rule against liquours I would guess could be based on the 
> knowledge that drugs and alcohol promote the tamas dosha in humans.  
> Thus, one cannot reach the higher levels of consciousness if he or 
> she is addicted to these.
>
>   
Depends on the individual doesn't it?  Liquor might well increase tama 
dosha in kapha types but help alleviate a vata imbalance, temporarily 
that is but not a long temp solution.  Most people drink to calm down 
after a stressful day which indicates that vata has become imbalanced. 
>> As for morality, much of those rules were made up by priest/kings 
>>     
> who 
>   
>> wanted to control the populace, avoid overpopulation (caused big 
>> problems during famines).  Sex is a natural hormonal drive and in 
>>     
> most 
>   
>> cases even more powerful than hunger (if you're on a diet when you 
>>     
> get 
>   
>> hungry trying thinking about sex and note how it can push the 
>>     
> hunger 
>   
>> pangs out of the way).   It's the consequences of excessive sex 
>>     
> which 
>   
>> increases vata that is a problem and in olden times lead to 
>> overpopulation due to lack of birth control.
>>     
>
> >From what understand, the kings in those olden days were under the 
> advisory of a guru or a wise man who was knowlegeable of the vedic 
> shastras.  I believe that the intent of the control over sex was 
> primarily spiritual by nature.  But the secondary element was to 
> raise better people in the population.
>   
I have my doubts that leaders in those days were all that altruistic.  I 
think it was the "same ol' same ol'" or "how do I keep from being 
tumbled."  This seems to be a bunch of idealist stuff that gurus like to 
promote.  Go talk to some Indians or travel in India and you'll get a 
better feel for it.

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