---Thanks, most interesting, as usual!. After you master out of body travel to other planets, here's some questions for you: Assuming there are intelligent creatures on other planets, do such civilizations have the equivalent of.... 1. NASCAR 2. What types of music: a. Country and Western, b. classical, c. rock and roll, d. other. 3. Do they practice TM? 4. How about cuisines?: a. Chinese, b. Mexican, c. Italian, d. other.
In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <rorygoff@> > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > <snip> > > > In contrast, those who cling so strongly to what > > > > they believe now, to the point of being incapable > > > > of stating even the *possibility* that these beliefs > > > > might be less than perfect, have made a commitment > > > > to STAYING THE SAME. They are actively *resisting* > > > > change, and thus resisting the very enlightenment > > > > they profess to seek. > > > > > > > But you could be wrong. :-) > > > > Yes, this is the interesting thing -- for the most part we can > only see > > what we BE, or have been. Getting back to M. Scott Peck's model > for a > > moment, on closer look it all appears to be simple, alternating > > currents or strata or layers of particle-identification and field- > > identification. > > > > Thus his POV-1 (Chaos) is the emergence of small-I particle- > > identification, the unruly child. > > > > Then his POV-2 (Fundamentalism) is the first emergence of field- > > identification, subservience of the chaotic "evil"-I to a larger > whole - > > - one of rules, society, tribal consciousness (one could argue > that > > this is actually its second appearance, after the prenatal mother- > child > > we-ness). > > > > Next his POV-3 (Eclecticism) is the re-emergence of small-I > particle > > identification, now with broadly expanded freedoms. One now sees > the > > limiting or relative nature of the belief-systems of one's > previous > > fundamentalism. > > > > Next his POV-4 (Love) is a new spiral of field-identification, > Being > > the Perfection of what IS, and so on. Beginning to see the > relative > > nature of *all* of our stories, even the one giving the subtitles > in > > this moment. Beginning to see *we have a choice* in how we gather > and > > interpret data -- and that it's the "finest feeling level" we > choose > > which determines our mental interpretrations and sense-gathering. > > Another great relief, yet more freedom, etc. > > > > Next we could posit a POV-5 (Bliss) wherein we BE this great field > now > > *collapsing* its totality into particular point(s) of awareness, > > embodying phsyical, literal, bliss. Now we see that the small I > and the > > large I are the same. > > > > And so on, and so on -- constantly alternating strata of fluid and > > particle, in ever-rising harmonics. > > > > When one is speaking a particular or a field truth, from whatever > > level, one will tend to be heard, resonated with, by those > identifying > > primarily with some harmonic of that given stratum. Thus one > expressing > > the particular truth of "I-as-bliss" will resonate with the > Eclectics > > *and* the Chaotics, both of whom are Doing Their Own Thing. One > > expressing the field truth of "Only One" will resonate with the > Lovers > > and the Fundamentalists, both of whom are experiencing profound > > devotion and mergence with the One. > > > > We could see these alternating layers of particle- and field- > > identification as themselves the alternating denser-and-rarer > strata of > > cosmic speech.... > > > > *L*L*L* > > > Dude-ji! I was just thinking about the whole particle/wave > perception alternation, though I didn't carry it into group dynamics > as you have. Yummy stuff! > > On another topic, I've been noticing some interesting things around > sleep. My first experience about a year ago (?) on getting to sleep > was to consciously blank my mind of thought, and fatigue would take > over, I'd slip on the banana peel, and down for the count. After > several months I became too interested or I could say in Love with > the active part of my mind, and it didn't seem fair to annihilate it > willfully just to go to sleep, but I *had* to go to sleep. So I'd > surf on my mantra for hours dipping into dreamland and back out. But > this wasn't satisfying because I wasn't really in a clean state of > mind- kinda meditating and kinda thinking and kinda dreaming and > kinda sleeping. Not much to be gained from the experience. So, next > I saw that I could isolate my mind into at least two sections, one > logical thinkiing piece which would do its own thing, and my > dinosaur mind, watching autonomous nervous system stuff like > regulating breath and heart beat, kidney and liver function, blood > flow, neurotransmitter activity and stuff like that. Once I saw each > part as a clear entity, it was then just a matter of turning my > attention to the dinosaur mind, and dropping into sleep. I no longer > had to negate the active logical mind, just tweaking my attention so > that it would no longer get drawn in that direction, like any other > control of the senses, though I am not sure which subtle sense is > involved, feels like touch and sight combined. Anyway, on with the > show! :-) >
