-- Below - primordial sounds prior to mantras. (Precisely the point of the Sant Mat Gurus!)....the so-called Yoga of Light and Sound.
- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > On May 23, 2007, at 11:49 AM, John Davis wrote: > > > > > The concept/fact of the TM mantras being older than the Hindu > > > religion, and > > > so also older than the gods named after them, which might then > be > > > seen as > > > personalisations of a pre-existing sound, makes a good deal of > > > sense to me. > > > > > > Unfortunately, it is untrue. The mantras all come from ancient > > tantric traditions and are related to the gods they are > associated > > with up to this day. TM mantras are not vedic, they are tantric. > Be > > rather leery of anyone who tells you otherwise. There's a common > myth > > in the TMO that TM mantras are "Vedic" (or I've even heard people > > claim they were from the Rig Veda!). It's simply untrue. > > > > Good luck! > > > Hi John, The point can be made that vibration brings creation into > being- certainly works with music! So if a sound is associated with > a particular God, it follows that the primary characteristics of > that sound precede as you say the personalization of that sound. The > personalization of the sound is secondary, being associated with > the 'discovery' of the God that it creates. > > Whether someone catalogues these sounds and dispenses them from a > particular tradition, and what that tradition might be is then > tertiary to the sound's origin, and the creation emanating from it. > > So whether the mantras are vedic or tantric doesn't matter at all- > just that they work, and as you know they do work. I wish you the > best of fortune with your ongoing practice of TM. :-) >
