--- In [email protected], new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Here is the Excel file
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Local%20Services/
> 
> --- In [email protected], new.morning <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "suziezuzie" <msilver1951@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], new.morning <no_reply@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "suziezuzie" 
<msilver1951@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > What these banks do is charge you all the interest up 
front. 
> > > > 
> > > > The banks are not front-loading interest. They are charging 
interest
> > > > on a "pay-as-you-go" basis. That is, they are charging 
interest on 
> > > the
> > > > outstanding principal. No more, no less. As the principal 
declines, 
> > > so
> > > > does the interest on the remaining principal.
> > > 
> > > This is true for short term loans only, not 30 year fixed 
loans. 
> > 
> > Not true. The principle is the same. If you have a teaser low 
interest
> > loan for the first 5 years, or an ARM, or other more complex loan,
> > then its a slightly different structure -- but the principle is 
the
> > same -- you pay interest on the outstanding principal. 
> > 
> > You and the author of the link you gave appear to feel that 
because
> > initial interest payments are more than principal in the first 
years
> > of the mortgage, that it is "front loaded". Thats an odd 
definition of
> > front-loaded. Front loaded traditionally means paying MORE interst
> > than is warranted by what is due on remaining principal. 
> > 
> > Create a payment and interest stream in Excel or Google SS and you
> > will understand whats going on. 
> > 
> > I have put  an excel ss that mimics your case in the FFL files
> > "Service". Actual interest does not sink to the level of principal
> > until year 21. But that is NOT front loading in the traditional
> > finance sense of the word.
> >

I never heard the term front loaded before so I thought you were 
using it to mean what we're talking about, that the interest on a 30 
year fixed home loan is calculated by the banks on purpose to be paid 
at the beginning of the loan as you've shown on your excel sheet. 
This is an arbitrary arrangement by the banks. The interest could 
have been arranged so the principle so that both could be paid 
together over the 30 years by simply adding the principle and 
interest together and dividing the amount over 30 years. The reason 
the banks do this, is to collect the interest first. That way, if the 
borrower should decide to pay off the entire loan early, let's say 
after 10 years, they will end up paying almost the entire amount of 
principle. Look at your excel sheet and you'll see that after 10 
years, the accumulative interest is over $60,000 and the accumulative 
principle is only $17,000. The pay off would be around $100,000.

This is what I'm talking about, banks purposely collecting almost all 
of the interest up front. In my opinion, this is a scam. 

Mark

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