--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "Alex Stanley" 
> <j_alexander_stanley@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "Rick Archer" <rick@> 
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I don't think that love and critical faculties are mutually 
> > > > exclusive. One should never abdicate one's critical 
faculties. 
> > > > If a spiritual teacher tells you to do so, head for the door.
> > > 
> > > I couldn't agree more, and find the assertion to
> > > the opposite -- that one "should" believe that one's
> > > spiritual teacher is "perfect" -- very curious indeed.
> > 
> > To me, the notion that Rick is "reducing Maharishi to a relative
> > personality, with flaws like all of us" is utterly bizarre. 
> Reducing?
> > As if MMY or any other of the 6.5 billion humans on earth is 
somehow
> > *not* a relative personality with flaws like all of us? Rick's 
> friend
> > sounds like he'd be shocked to learn that MMY also pees from a 
dick
> > and shits out of an asshole.
> >
> 
> 
> When I first started meditating when I was 18, the friend who 
> introduced me to TM (and who subsequently went off to TTC like I 
did 
> and became a teacher) told me that when Maharishi goes to the 
> bathroom, it comes out as butterflies.
> 
> And I actually believed him until I was about 28.
> 
> But then again, my mother had told me when I was about 5 that 
> chocolate milk came from brown cows and I believed that until I 
was 
> 35 and mentioned it in front of a large group of people.
> 
> By the way, the friend who started me on TM quit meditating 
> around '84.
>
Sounds like he got tired of waiting for the butterflies...:-)

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