I saw Charlie Lutes in California 30 years ago, and he said, "In the
next year or two, they'll find Christ's rocket ship inside one of the
pyramids."  

20 years later I saw him in one of his last lectures in Iowa City
(Cedar Rapids?) and I asked him about that rocket and why it hadn't
been found yet.

He said, "I never said any such thing."

I quizzed him a bit more about aliens coming to earth and that we
should go with the good looking ones -- not the lizard people.

Again, "I never said anything about those subjects."

That was the end of any fascination I had with Charlie Lutes.

Edg

--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> i love how Charlie always but the "the" in front of
> Guru Dev to make it a noun!
>  
> --- curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > --- In [email protected], bob_brigante
> > <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.maharishiphotos.com/mem2a.html
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for posting this Bob.  There is a
> > contradictions in his account
> > from MMY's own account.  Since he was so close to
> > MMY it is
> > interesting that he would tell a different story.  I
> > am beginning to
> > wonder if it is MMY who told different versions to
> > different people. 
> > But for his official version that is played
> > repeatedly on his courses,
> > we are all familiar with that one so my pointing out
> > the difference
> > certainly wont bring a flurry of resistance, it will
> > just be an
> > obvious fact that we can work out together...
> > 
> > C: A few years before he became Shankaracharya, the
> > old sage made one
> > of his rare ventures out of the wilderness. It was
> > at this time that
> > Maharishi saw him in a procession and the experience
> > was something
> > like spiritual love at first sight. Maharishi, a
> > twenty-year-old
> > student, felt an overwhelming desire to be near and
> > serve the great
> > master.
> > 
> > Me: In his taped account he came to see Guru Dev in
> > a house at night
> > for the first time and caught a "flashy glimpse"
> > when a car headlight
> > illuminated his face.  There was no procession.
> > 
> > C: He sought out the Guru Dev who told him to first
> > finish his
> > education and then come. Two years later, having
> > earned his degree,
> > Maharishi headed for the monastery of Jyotir Math in
> > the Himalayan
> > religious center of Badrinath, there to devote his
> > life to the Guru
> > Dev, "to serve at the feet of my master." And this
> > he did for thirteen
> > years until the swami passed on.
> > 
> > Over the years, Maharishi would be asked hundreds of
> > times to talk
> > about his past. Reporters were especially curious.
> > But his answer was
> > always the same: "Once you take the vows of the
> > monk, past life is
> > forgotten."
> > 
> > He told me long ago that when you become a
> > bramachari, or monk, you no
> > longer relate to your family or to any of your
> > background.
> > 
> > Me:  So is his obvious connection with his family in
> > the indian
> > movement a departure from his vows?  He set them up
> > with sweet jobs,
> > that is definitely relating to them, in fact 
> > showing them favoritism.
> >   If in fact they are actually getting big bank
> > accounts from the
> > movement's finances, this would also seem to
> > contradict this vow
> > business.  So either Charlie is misquoting him or he
> > is not following
> > his own standards.
> > 
> > C: From time to time, over the ages, this special
> > technique is brought
> > back into focus. The Guru Dev chose Maharishi to do
> > it now. Where the
> > Guru Dev acquired the knowledge isn't known; whether
> > it was given to
> > him by his own guru many, many years ago, or whether
> > it came to him
> > from his attunement with the Infinite. The Guru Dev
> > was a master of
> > masters, a master of all paths. His comprehension
> > was universal.
> > 
> > What Maharishi had inherited was the quintessence of
> > Transcendental
> > Meditation. It was like a magnificent raw diamond
> > requiring the skill
> > of an expert cutter and polisher. Maharishi now had
> > to structure the
> > knowledge and make it workable. What was the best
> > way to teach it?
> > What were the modes of practicing it? How could it
> > be made appealing
> > to the masses?
> > 
> > None of the other monks or holy men could help him.
> > He alone had
> > received the knowledge from the Guru Dev. (snip)
> > 
> > Me: Here Charlie seems to be trying to share credit
> > for TM between MMY
> > and Guru Dev.  Since the simple japa style
> > meditation is so common in
> > India I don't really get this claim.  (I know the
> > magic effortless
> > nature of the practice story)  The mantras are not
> > meaningless sounds
> > to Indians so for them this aspect of how it is
> > presented in the West
> > is absent.  So it seems a bit dubious that TM is so
> > unique.  Having
> > spent a short amount of time after getting out of TM
> > practicing some
> > other versions I am not so sure this claim of
> > uniqueness is valid.  I
> > know many others here have much more experience with
> > different forms
> > of meditation so I will leave this topic to the
> > experts.
> > 
> > C: He had traveled more than 1,500 miles, most of
> > that distance on foot.
> > 
> > Me: Puleeeeeeze!  Monks get free rides on Indian
> > trains.  MMY super
> > hiker!  Guru Dev super camper!  How did such outdoor
> > types end up with
> > the pasty faced crew that are their most devoted
> > followers?
> > 
> > 
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