I'm not sure I fully grasp what this involves. It sounds very interesting. In NLP we used something that may have a little to do with what you are talking about. It concerned practicing your perceptual position. You would first run a memory as a movie, dissociated from it. Then you would take on the perceptual position of the other person in the scene so you could gain some better perspective of how they had experienced it. Then you might associate into your own body to feel the feelings. It was used as a treatment for abuse, but is just as effective for any unpleasant memory. It allowed you to make changes in how you perceived your own history.
All these techniques take some practice. I think my experiences with TM helped me feel comfortable in an internal world for extended periods. I would probably benefit from reviewing which of these techniques would help me today with my current life goals. I should spend some trance time "becoming" Robert Johnson. I would have to be careful not to end up banging a club owner's wife and getting poisoned though! There are many song writing applications that I have used in the past but need to spend more time doing for my next CD. These days I am so outward directed that I tend to only use these techniques the way I fix my car, when stuff starts rattling around so I have to pay attention. I should take some time to be more creative in using them for more positive goals rather then to fix things. Now with Summer here, and the ladies walking by me on the waterfront wearing sun dresses, I pretty much won't close my eyes till Winter! --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Interesting NLP story. > > One of the meditative processes I've found very valuable was a > technique which actually projects habitual subtle and super-subtle > thoughts into three dimensional space, to the extent that, sans > external testing cues, you could not tell it from from waking > reality. If you could jump outside of the thought-loops that caused > the "reality" to manifest, you could be free of it and the thought > patterns would "self liberate". However, if you accepted them as > real, you would be stuck there for an indeterminate amount of time. > One of the warnings of undergoing this type of retreat was that if > you could not rest the mind in it's natural state, you could > potentially become trapped in such states for days, weeks or years. > The interesting thing was, if you fell for some juicy thought-loop > and then eventually came out of it, you could always examine your > mind and it would present the source of the pattern. It was often > some subtle belief you were 'running in your mind-RAM' unconsciously. > Once recognition dawned though, you were free. > > On Jun 12, 2007, at 10:19 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > Thanks for posting this Vaj. > > > > One interesting area of Neuro linguistic Programming was something > > they call "sub-modalities". These are all the internal distinctions > > we make to tell one type of thought or memory from another. We code > > thoughts with internal visual cues like image qualities, > > brightness,size, color vividness and our internal dialog with > > qualities like volume, tone and speed. These qualities can be > > manipulated once you isolate them. We did an exercise on my > > practitioner's training where we tried to uncover what internal cues > > we use to tell a real memory from a made-up story. The purpose was to > > build some convincing histories of success for ourselves when we were > > doing something new to build confidence. It was pretty obvious what > > internal qualities we used to internally code true experiences from > > fiction. We attempted to make the made up story as much like the true > > ones as we could. I got to the point where I could feel emotional > > changes from the false memories once I had altered them like the real > > ones. It never got confusing which was real, probably because there > > were other cues I was missing, but it served the purpose of shifting > > emotional states. > > > > One interesting exercise we did with sub modalities was to locate > > negative subconscious internal tapes that we were running without > > knowing it. The usual stuff like "You aren't good at..." or "You > > never (always)..." Often times, when analyzed, it would turn out to > > be in the voice of a loved one who had started the self-doubt process > > and then it ran by itself below conscious attention. We would then > > take the phrase and use a sped-up cartoon voice and run it that way > > until the phrase would lose all of its emotional charge. > > > > I am doubtful about a lot of claims in NLP for miraculous cures > > quickly, but I did find these insights very useful. Now I am pretty > > conscious of the specific qualities of internal dialog I have with > > myself and the kind of pictures I am using that motivate my emotions. > > It has been helpful for me. > > > > We also studied trance induction ala Milton Erickson. That was the > > beginning of my shift in my POV on what I was experiencing in > > meditation and what my subjective experiences meant. > > > > Interesting article! >
