--- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "Ron" <sidha7001@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "Ron" <sidha7001@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "Alex Stanley"
> > > > <j_alexander_stanley@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > So, it basically boils down to one guru who isn't qualified 
to
> be a
> > > > > guru lashing out at another guru because he isn't qualified 
to
> be a
> > > > > guru. Indian spiritual politics... gotta love it!
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Are we about to step into nonsense here because if so it is 
going to
> > > > be very short lived from this side.
> > > > 
> > > > Go ahead and list the basis for claim that Swami G is not a 
Guru if
> > > > you like, then maybe there will be a response. Keep in mind my
> comment
> > > > in an earlier post, if it is thought that a post  coming from
> Swami G
> > > > will be of no value, most likely there is not going to be 
one. I
> > > > haven't seen it happen too often but I have seen it.
> > > > 
> > > > You can see Swami G tell of her journey and how it is that she
> became
> > > > a Guru in one of the 13 youtube videos under the search of
> Guruswamig
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Your guru comes off to me like any other common person who has 
their
> > > own opinions. In the video I saw of her, she seems like any 
regular
> > > woman who attended some metaphysical classes and offers her 
point of
> > > view. In my view, she appears to offer absolutely nothing in 
her own
> > > persona, of spiritual substance that is impressive or appealing.
> > > Maharishi, whether he has certain initiations or not, has a much
> > > greater energy presence than your guru. Guru Dev [Swami 
Brahmananda
> > > Saraswati] far surpasses them both. This is just my view.
> > 
> > How long have you lived with any of the 3 Gurus that you just
> > mentioned? I lived day and night with SwamiG, not the other 2. 
> 
> 
> I have no desire to spend any time with your guru. I've spent a
> considerable amount of time with Maharishi on courses and teacher
> training. I experience the presence of Guru Dev almost daily.
> 
> 
> [snip]
> 
> 
> > > Further, I don't think one can rely merely on what badges the 
boy
> > > scout [or girl scout] has acquired or claims, but rather on his
> > > character and the quality of the work he accomplishes. 
> 
> 
> > First step is see what peace comes about under the guidance of the
> > Guru you are under. Swami G's General comments are that until one 
is
> > realized, you are not going to save the world. One who can't even 
save
> > himself is going to save the world?
> 
> 
> I remain totally unimpressed. If you have found what you're looking
> for, then good for you. Meanwhile, I recommend that you take your 
own
> advice . . .
> 
> "Are we about to step into nonsense here because if so it is going 
to
> be very short lived from this side."
> 
> . . . but recognise however, that that which appears to be nonsense
> [compared to the import of Maharishi and Guru Dev] is coming from 
your
> side.

Anyone can claim to be a Guru and a Swami from A to Z and back again 
forever if they wish to. Go ahead, thats fine with me, I could not 
care less.

But in the case of this "Guru" who claims that no one can be 
enlightened or Teacher because he once was a secretary and dresses 
in  white (!), well in this case I think the writer firmely has put 
him/herself on an intense level of nonsense rarely seen even here on 
FFL. Even Vaj, in his worst of moods, couldn't cook up such utter 
rubbish.




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