Hello, Hey, I also want to comment about Mother Meera. A good feeling there, deeply commited for those seeking help. She shifts people around in the positions so that the ego is not promoted . I saw her secretary in the capacity as a mechant collecting the money for the incents, her husband was the door checker.
I read all of her books. Among the comments that i never forgot was something to the effect- The problem is everyone thinks they are special, the reality is no one is special and you are not chosen. she also referred to large spiritual organizations and said that sometimes the ego goes the other way than what is usefull. I think this is to do with competing for positions, gaining titles, etc. I would like to reread her books one day when I find the time. Because of the post limit, may as well use this also for a post from Swami G talking which is as clear a light possible for the Jesus folks that hold his, the persona as God: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Namaste This is a wonderfully put together offering that clears the air for those who Preach Jesus - While Christ was an absolutely Perfect Prophet he always pointed mankind towards God - Truth - and beyond fear. Yeshua Ben Joseph never pointed any towards himself He even said - why call me good ? as there are none good save God the Father. Why was this done ? as he was not preaching attach to this persona but Recognise the ONE - When he said i and the Father are ONE - if you have seen me you have seen the Father that sent me - this means that he is speaking from Truth that there is no separation. This is not an affirmation of taking the persona to be god. Maha Shanti OM Now onto this wonderful offering. http://www.submission.org/savior.html "Let there be no compulsion in religion: truth stands out clear from error." Quran 2:256 "And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32 We have been receiving many e-mails from our Christian brothers and sisters in which they preach to us that Jesus Christ is the Savior and the way. With due respect to them, we cannot accept their notion as it contradicts every known divine scripture including the Old Testament, the New Testament and the Final Testament (Quran). Any sincere student of the scripture will find out that the ONE and ONLY Savior and Redeemer is the One God , the Almighty, the God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammed. In the NEW TESTAMENT we see that the idea of every one responsible for his own deed were expressed in Galatians 6:4-7, which states "Each man should look to his conduct; if he has reason to boast of anything, it will be because the achievement is his and not another's. ......... A man will REAP ONLY what he SOWS." Galatians 6:4 - 7 "Each of us shall give an account of himself to God." Romans 14:12 "Each one will receive his own reward according to his own labor." 1Corinthians 3:8 "Also to you O Lord, belong mercy; for you render to each one according to his work." Psalms 62:12 "And will he not render to each man according to his deeds?" Proverbs 24:12 "The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself." Ezekiel 18:20 If each man reaps what he sows, how can Jesus be the savior ? How could he have taken on the sins of mankind and negated them ? Only the One who accepts repentance and wipes out sins can do that. Indeed throughout the Old Testament, God ALONE is referred to as the SAVIOR. See , 2 Samuel 22:1-3 , and Isaiah 43:3-11 In Isaiah, God Himself speaks, saying clearly that He ALONE is the SAVIOR: "For I am the Lord, your God, the Holy One of Israel, your SAVIOR....It is I, the Lord; there is NO SAVIOR BUT ME..." Isaiah 43:3 &11 HE repeats this categorical statement in Hosea: "I am the Lord, your God, since the land of Egypt; You know no God besides me, and there is NO SAVIOR but me." Hosea 13:4 There is also a related concept, the idea of a "REDEEMER". This word has also been exclusively used for God in the Old Testament, e.g. Isaiah 44:24 and Isaiah 60:16 "You shall know that I, the Lord am your SAVIOR, your REDEEMER, the mighty one of Jacob." Isaiah 60:16 The created idea of Jesus being the Savior can only be witnessed in the New Testament where the alteration has been highly suspected because of its complete contradiction to the Old Testament that came from the same God. God does not change His mind. God does not call Himself the ONLY SAVIOR then decides to change that and call Jesus the Savior. This term describing Jesus as the Savior was used only twice in the N.T. This is noted in Lk.ii 11 and in Jn. iv 42. Besides these two occurrences , the only other occurrence in the Gospels clearly refers to God, not Jesus : "Then Mary said: "My being proclaims the greatness of the Lord. My spirit finds joy in God , MY SAVIOR, For He has looked upon his servant in her lowliness..." Luke 1: 46-48 We cannot ignore the reminder in Isaiah 46:9 where God speaks of Himself "I am God, there is no other;, I am God, there is none like me." (La Elaha Ella Allah). In the Final Testament, the Quran, God clearly calls Himself the Redeemer and no savior besides Him; [2:160.15] As for those who repent, reform, and proclaim, I redeem them. I am the Redeemer, Most Merciful. [ 4:173.46] As for those who believe and lead a righteous life, He will fully recompense them, and shower them with His grace. As for those who disdain and turn arrogant, He will commit them to painful retribution. They will find no lord beside GOD, nor a savior. [9:104.22] Do they not realize that GOD accepts the repentance of His worshipers, and takes the charities, and that GOD is the Redeemer, Most Merciful? [ 24:10.11] This is GOD's grace and mercy towards you. GOD is Redeemer, Most Wise. [ 49:12.54] .....You shall observe GOD. GOD is Redeemer, Most Merciful. [ 110:3.16] You shall glorify and praise your Lord, and implore Him for forgiveness. He is the Redeemer. Quran (The Final Testament) confirms the basic principle in the Old and New Testaments, that a man will reap only what he sows. "Every soul is responsible only for his/her own work" 53:39 ".............no soul benefits except from its own work, and none bears the burden of another......" 6:164 We have Only One God who can redeem us, He is the same God who spoke in the Bible, the Gospel and the Quran reminding us that there is no god besides Him. [Quran 112:1-4] Proclaim, "He is the One and only GOD. "The Absolute GOD. "Never did He beget. Nor was He begotten. "None equals Him."
