--- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" > > <shempmcgurk@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" > > > > <shempmcgurk@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _Alarmist global warming claims melt under scientific > > > > > > scrutiny :: > > > > > > > > CHICAGO > > > > > > > > > SUN-TIMES :: Other Views_ > > > > > > > > > (http://www.suntimes.com/news/otherviews/450392,CST- EDT- > > > > > > > > REF30b.article) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I already posted a link to this article. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judy's response? It's totally meaningless because > > > > ExxonMobile > > > > > > funds > > > > > > > > the institute where the author works. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heartland Institute has received $791,500 from ExxonMobil > > since > > > > > > 1998. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Heartland Institute created a website in the Spring of > > 2007, > > > > > > www.globalwarmingheartland.org, which asserts there is no > > > > scientific > > > > > > consensus on global warming and features a list of experts > > and a > > > > > list > > > > > > of like-minded think tanks, many of whom have received > > funding > > > > from > > > > > > ExxonMobil and other polluters. [...] > > > > > > > > > > > > Walter F. Buchholtz, an ExxonMobil executive, serves as > > > > Heartland's > > > > > > Government Relations Advisor, according to Heartland's 2005 > > IRS > > > > Form > > > > > > 990, pg. 15. > > > > > > http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2005/363/309/2005- > > 363309812- > > > > > 0295fbb2-9.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > The Heartland Institute formerly sponsored and hosted > > > > > > www.climatesearch.org, a web page ostensibly dedicated to > > > > objective > > > > > > research on global warming, but at the same time presenting > > > > heavily > > > > > > biased research by organizations such as the American > > Petroleum > > > > > > Institute as an FAQ section. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/orgfactsheet.php?id=41 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SO WHAT? > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you read the article? It was, mostly, a compendium of > > > > references > > > > > > to published articles in the leading scientific journals that > > > > refuted > > > > > > the global warming position. > > > > > > > > > > > > Are all these journals and all the authors of those pieces > > ALSO > > > > in > > > > > > the pocket of ExxonMobile? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cherry picking isolated stories to promote one's biased claims > > pales > > > > > in comparison to the overwhelming massive collective evidence > > > > > indicating the reality of global warming. > > > > > > > The fact that the author of > > > > > the article works for a known paid Big Oil shill makes your case > > > > > laughable when you expect to be taken seriously. > > > > > > There IS NO "overwhelming massive collective evidence indicating > > the > > > > reality of global warming". > > > > > > > > That's just something Al Gore said or that you read in the media. > > > > > > > > > The fact that you are astonishingly uninformed is your fault, not > > mine. > > > > Well, then, it should be easy enough for you to actually SHOW ME > > where this alleged "overwhelming massive collective evidence > > indicating the reality of global warming" is. > > > > And please don't reference where someone is SAYING that it is so but > > provide the actual evidence, as you claim. > > > > I'm waiting. > > > The National Academies of Science represent the scientific communities > of 11 major nations of the world. > > Brazil > Canada > China > France > Germany > India > Italy > Japan > Russia > United Kingdom > United States of America > > *See their report* on Climate Change here: http://tinyurl.com/3ykvyg >
This is a political organisation. > The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change [IPCC] > > Recognizing the problem of potential global climate change, the World > Meteorological Organization (WMO) and the United Nations Environment > Programme (UNEP) established the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate > Change (IPCC) in 1988. It is open to *ALL* members of the > UN and WMO. > > *See their report* on Climate Change here: > http://www.ipcc.ch/about/about.htm This is a political organisation. > > Maybe you'd like to try to count how many scientists these groups > represent. Then maybe you could show 'your' side of the story by > presenting a comparable body of scientists that don't come from > either right wing conspiracy freaks or people or groups funded by Big > Oil and acting as their shills. >
