--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" > <shempmcgurk@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" > > > <shempmcgurk@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" > <do.rflex@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can't credibly deny that Bush & Cheney publicly > pushed > > > the > > > > > idea > > > > > > > > and claimed a connection between Saddam and Al Qaeda. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not denying it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All I'm saying is that it wasn't this massive "over and > over > > > and > > > > > over > > > > > > > again" as you claim. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. It was. There was much more that I didn't post. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was mentioned and, yes, it was a factor for claiming > to go > > > to > > > > > > > war. And why not? It's true and, if anything, Bush > didn't > > > hype > > > > > it > > > > > > > enough, as is clear from the "evidence" that you > presented to > > > us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No. It isn't and wasn't true. You're lying just like Bush & > > > gang > > > > > did. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, since you were there in the room with everyone and > don't > > > have > > > > > to rely on the public record as the rest of us do, I guess > you > > > know > > > > > best. > > > > > > > > > > > > The public record is very clear. You're lying. > > > > > > > > > Your public record if full of quotes of ambiguous statements and > > > hypothetical and imaginary speculations...far, far from your > claim > > > that Bush "over and over and over again" tied Saddam to Al Qaida. > > > > > > And it's not a question of me "lying"...it's a matter of the > reader > > > to look at the quotes you drudged up to decide for themselves > whether > > > they back up what you said. > > > > > > It isn't what *I* said, it's what Bush said. Most of those quotes I > > posted are found at the official White House website. You're a liar. > > > You're misunderstanding me. > > I'm not saying YOU or ANYONE made up the quotes. What I'm saying is > that they don't back up your claims.
Then you ARE a liar. > And stop calling me a liar, Shirley. "I've often heard that the best liars are those who can deeply delude themselves into believing that they are actually telling the truth and I'm sure that, while a few of these characters may have a nugget of reality-laced guilt deep in their psyches, most of them will simply find a new justification to make everything hunky dory in their twisted world." ~~ Bob Geiger http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/2007/01/another-right-wing-smear-campaign.html
