Comment from Swami G picked off a youtube comment to a Guru: Chidvalasananda was not Realized she is in the midst of the journey - Muktananda was not authorized to be a Guru. Nityananda left the form willingly and stated there were None that came that were not seeking out of personal benefit. Maha Shanti OM
Post: I remember a TM teacher commenting on Kundalini & TM - maybe after some video where MMY talked about other systems - emphasizing the "naturalness" of spiritual unfoldment with TM in contrast with the more "forceful" and potentially more destabilizing Kundalini "methods" taught elsewhere.. Seems like TM is destabilizing enough for many people..!! Tanmay: I think there is a mixture in TM, I met a Tm teacher who hires prostitutes so he can wrestle with them, so he says. Same with Kundalini awakening- greatest bessing part is expereienceing it in a balanced way. Another post: Maharishi must have realized at some point that the population at large wasn't advanced enough to just pop into BC, so familiar with the symptoms along the way, he tricked us into looking for representative symptoms of growing enlightenment, in order to keep us meditating. Then over time, BC dawns, and Kundalini opens relatively naturally. Tanmay: BC dawns is the end of the kundaliini journey. Kundalini awakening is something that happens within the journey, where shakti meets shiva, it is beyond it Imo, the thing that makes it difficult for many to reach the goal is all of the descriptions of the goal being mistaken for the path- happened with all the religions, and with TM also. The benefit of TM is that with Guru Dev's assistance, each of us continuing the practice will reach the goal. Tanmay: Assistance from a guru no longer in the form? Its probably possible, so it winming the lottery I found personally I had to really go against what I thought would rationally lead me to enlightenment- paradoxically this made the journey much shorter. PS When the Kundalini opens completely, it is an unmistakable phenomenon and quite easily integrated after so many years doing TM.:-) Tanmay- I find that to be the case New post: ---You're on the wrong track. Muktananda gave me "Shaktipat" on a number of occasions, once digging his fingers into my eyeballs at which time a brilliant image of himself showed up in my field of vision. Also I've received "Shaktipat" from his successor, Swami Chidvilisananda. Didn't do me any good. The idea that you must activate your Kundalini first, before "transcending" or realizing the Self is an erronous viewpoint perpetuated (in the l9-th century) by Ramakrishna and his successors. You need to TRANSCEND the Kundalini, not activate it first. Activating it first is in the same category as looking for celesial Lights or Sounds (subtle manifestations of the Kundalini). Ramana Maharshi says "don't look for Lights or Sounds". My recommendation: TM + devotion to Ramana Maharshi. Get "The Sage of Arunachala" DVD and the Veda Parayana audio; and get sucked into Ramana's vast Morphogenetic field. Tanmay: comment at the top about Muk and Swami Chidvilisananda. I find this post all over the place. Kundalini awakens to those ripe for it in the spiritual path. It is shakti in motion, it is not the goal but rather acts like roto rooter clearing the pathways. The transcending is directly related in that I find it leaves the fruit of transcendence or pure consciousness to be know in the midst of activity. The meditation itself, if it were TM would be experienced way deeper with an awakened kundalini and one that was in balance. You say you need to transcend the kundalini, not activate it first? When do you activate it - after you have transcended or even reached the goal? Plus, the way you are speaking here, if this is from a book?I am speaking in this case with direct experience of the kundalini being awakened now. The kundalini activating is not something you can do with one that is not ripe - if you are ripe and the one giving shatipat is a sat Guru, it may awaken- it happens in its own time. Looking for lights and phenomina is not the case, we can call it phenomina- the awakened kundalini- but this should be known for what it is. Phenomina of any sort are signposts along the way, not a place to stop at and camp under, otherwise you never reach the campgrounds. Manifestations of Kundalini? lights and things may happen- a sat Guru who has traversed the whole path of kundalini from start to realization knows how to guide one in the midst of the kudalini journey. My Guru would go along with anything Ramana Maharihsi says. Yes don't look for lights and sounds and get caught up with phenomina- but kundalini is pure shakti- the way one deals with it is up to them. It is like electricty, it is pure but you can use it to light a house or execute someone. Do TM- matra from a living guru, then devote yourself to another Guru not in form?
