shempmcgurk wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> shempmcgurk wrote:
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>>> --- In [email protected], Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote:
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>>>> The AMA is not a government agency.
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>>>>         
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>>> Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that they were.
>>>
>>> But it is true, I believe, that much of their mandate IS as a 
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> result 
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>>> of federal law.
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>> Hardly.  The AMA lobbies for these policies.  The government does 
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> not 
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>> come up with.  The AMA mainly consists of a bunch of doctors who 
>>     
> got 
>   
>> their because daddy was a doctor and made sure that sonny or 
>>     
> daughter 
>   
>> got through medical not from skill but from help from daddy's 
>> connections just so they can have an easy life golfing and 
>>     
> occasionally 
>   
>> looking at a patient's blood panel and sticking their finger up the 
>> patients ass.   Doctors who are truly interested in practicing 
>>     
> medicine 
>   
>> often find the AMA's exploits appalling.
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>
> The following is from a much longer article found at 
> http://www.mises.org/fullstory.aspx?Id=1749 but I think you'll find 
> here that the AMA has quite a legislated mandate (here they talk 
> about legislated mandates by states; I believe there is also a 
> federal mandate as well):
>
>
> Medical Regulation and the AMA
>
> Besides paying some of the highest prices for health care, we have 
> the dubious distinction of having the most heavily regulated 
> healthcare system in the world. In no other country on earth are 
> doctors and hospitals subjected to as many oversight and enforcement 
> agencies, bureaus and commissions. Rules, regulations, and laws are 
> duplicated, redundant, multiplied, magnified, and contradictory. Laws 
> and regulations covering doctors and hospitals plus all the other 
> parts of our healthcare system now account for over half of all the 
> words, sentences, and paragraphs in our entire body of law.
>
> If regulations could make a healthcare system work better, ours would 
> surely be perfect. In fact, the opposite has occurred. Even those who 
> believe that only government regulation can assure quality health 
> care should face this fact. More laws and regulations are not going 
> to fix our system. If we are truly concerned about the high cost of 
> health care, if we really desire greater safety and higher quality, 
> then we must undertake a dispassionate analysis of the current mess. 
> If we wish to begin effective treatment of our healthcare system, we 
> must first make an accurate diagnosis.
>
> To make the correct diagnosis in a complicated medical case it is 
> often helpful to have patients recount their first encounter with 
> their symptoms. So it is with understanding the conundrum we call our 
> healthcare system.
>
> We have to go very far back to the first meeting of what would become 
> the American Medical Association. This meeting was held in New York 
> City in 1846. Twenty-nine allopathic doctors (MDs) attended the 
> meeting. They wanted to establish a monopoly over health care in the 
> United States for those doctors that practiced higher quality 
> medicine, such as themselves. They felt there were too many different 
> kinds of doctors practicing too many questionable forms of medicine. 
> They wanted only doctors that conformed to their brand of medicine to 
> be allowed to practice. They wished to set up their association as a 
> medical elite and obtain a government-enforced monopoly over health 
> care in the United States.
>
> The following year the AMA was officially launched. Members' efforts 
> were at first slow to yield results. One of their first successes was 
> in getting the exclusive right to positions in the federal 
> government. Then, around 1870, the AMA began to find success at 
> setting up medical boards in each state. The rationale behind these 
> medical boards was twofold.
>
> First, it was assumed that only doctors knew enough about medicine to 
> be able to determine whether a physician was competent. And second, 
> it was felt that doctors accused of misconduct should not be 
> subjected to the public humiliation of an open trial. Typically the 
> AMA would team up with key lawmakers in a state and lobby for 
> legislation to "protect public safety." The idea was that incompetent 
> and unscrupulous doctors were doing great harm to healthcare 
> consumers. There was no proof of this, but it was their claim.
>
> A state consumer protection agency staffed by AMA members was 
> promoted. That is, a state board made up of AMA members would examine 
> applicants who wanted to practice medicine and only license those who 
> were, according to them, competent and morally fit. So each state in 
> turn passed a Medical Practice Act which created a board of medical 
> examiners with police powers to enforce their decisions. It was 
> critical to the AMA's long-range plans that states establish these 
> medical boards.
I don't see how this proves your point but it surely proves mine. :-D

The line: "They wanted to establish a monopoly over health care in the
United States" says a lot.

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