In a message dated 7/7/07 10:01:16 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Every single fundamentalist christian I've spoken to the past 30 years is absolutely convinced they are going to heaven and every non christian is going to hell. who cares how they justify it, conduct or grace or donations to the church, the point is that's their arrogant and closeminded belief. actually that fundamentalist christians don't give a rats ass about conduct is one of their big problems. have you read the immensely popular "left behind" books - floating up to heaven and not being left behind to get zapped with the non believers by jesus is the major motivator for them. for fundies grace is just a pretty word for superiority. Yes, you are right that every fundamentalist Christian believes they are going to Heaven and anybody that has not accepted the gift of Salvation offered by God Almighty will burn in Hell for eternity. That is what their scripture teaches, and every human being has a choice. It's not arrogance, it's a matter of faith in their scripture. They all knew they were on the road to Hell just like anybody else till they had their "epiphany". However the Christians I know also say that doesn't give them a license to behave badly. They know they are flawed and sinful and it is up to them to repent and change. Change doesn't come instantly and can be a work in progress, over the period of their entire life and still they may not finish that act of repenting, but they are forgiven. < Now, maybe you would like to tell us about some of your beliefs, like an endless cycle of birth and death for all of creation unless you can escape it through the practice of Transcendental Meditation , Yogic Flying, Yagyas, Pancha Karma, living in specially built dwellings etc. Yet, I don't see one ounce of better behavior in your typical TMer than I see in the average church going fundamentalist Christian. In fact it may even be worse. Something was said earlier by OffWorld about Ted Haggart and his fall. I noticed he said nothing about all the Yogis, Swamis, Brahmacharyas, and Avatars that sexually exploit their disciples while claiming to be so pure and above all that. No , fundies don't claim to be pure or perfect, in fact, many will tell you they are or were total wretches," Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound, that saved a wretch like me," but they believe that God gave all humanity a way to escape what they deserved. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
