--- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
<shempmcgurk@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> 
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
> > <shempmcgurk@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" 
<jstein@> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
> > > > <shempmcgurk@> 
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" 
> > <jstein@> 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
> > > > > > > <shempmcgurk@> 
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > <snip>
> > > > > > > > > > Gore, equally, lives in a fantasy land where 
imagined 
> > > > dangers
> > > > > > > > > > to the planet are concocted in his mind and 
> > propagated 
> > > > > > > > > > unremittingly by him to the public.  Like the 
> > Energizer 
> > > > Bunny,
> > > > > > > > > > he goes on and on about global warming without 
any 
> > > > concern 
> > > > > > > about 
> > > > > > > > > > truth or the impact his words will have on 
others.  
> > He 
> > > > has 
> > > > > > built
> > > > > > > > > > a fantasy wall around himself in which he -- and 
he 
> > > > alone --
> > > > > > > > > > cares about the world and all others be damned.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Well, no, in fact none of the above is true.
> > > > > > > > > Gore is very much in line with most current
> > > > > > > > > scientific thinking about global warming and
> > > > > > > > > has most of his facts straight, all the
> > > > > > > > > important ones, according to climate scientists.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > And which climate scientists are those?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=299
> > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2e6vba
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yawn.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Typical global-warming-fear-monger propaganda.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I counted 11 scientists listed under the "people" link.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Hardly a ringing endorsement.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Of course Shemp ignores the following:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > The National Academies of Science represent the scientific 
> > > > communities
> > > > > of 11 major nations of the world.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Brazil
> > > > > Canada
> > > > > China
> > > > > France
> > > > > Germany
> > > > > India
> > > > > Italy
> > > > > Japan
> > > > > Russia
> > > > > United Kingdom
> > > > > United States of America
> > > > > 
> > > > > *See their report* on Climate Change here: 
> > http://tinyurl.com/3ykvyg
> > > > > 
> > > > > AND,
> > > > > 
> > > > > The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change [IPCC]
> > > > > 
> > > > > Recognizing the problem of potential global climate change, 
the 
> > > > World
> > > > > Meteorological Organization (WMO) and the United Nations 
> > Environment
> > > > > Programme (UNEP) established the Intergovernmental Panel on 
> > Climate
> > > > > Change (IPCC) in 1988. It is open to *ALL* members of the
> > > > > UN and WMO.
> > > > > 
> > > > > *See their report* on Climate Change here:
> > > > > http://www.ipcc.ch/about/about.htm
> > > > > 
> > > > > Maybe you'd like to try to count how many scientists these 
> > groups
> > > > > represent. Then maybe you could show 'your' side of the 
story by
> > > > > presenting a comparable body of scientists that don't come 
from
> > > > > either right wing conspiracy freaks or people or groups 
funded 
> > by 
> > > > Big
> > > > > Oil and acting as their shills.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ...and who is funding the organisations -- all political -- 
that 
> > you 
> > > > cite above?  
> > > > 
> > > > Why, governments, of course which are POLITICAL...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > And that makes their world-wide collective findings of the 
reality 
> > of
> > > global warming illegitimate, HOW ?????
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Uh, the same way that the collective findings of the unreality of 
> > catastrophic man-made global warming is illegitimate on the part 
of 
> > research funded by oil companies.
> 
> 
> Uh... The oil companies have a clear incentive to dishonestly deny 
the
> overwhelming scientific research that claims that fossil fuel 
burning
> causes pollution that is contributing to global warming.
> 
> Please elaborate on the incentive for the world's governments to
> publish consensus scientific data that shows global warming is 
indeed
> a danger caused by burning fossil fuels.




Bureaucracies in the Western World as well as many politicians are 
left-leaning anti-American liberals.  Communism and socialism were 
defeated and now they are using the environment as another way to 
control the economy.  They hate the success that America and 
capitalism is.








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> 
> 
> > If you can explain that cause-effect relationship then you have 
the 
> > answer to your question.
>


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