--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "hugheshugo" > <richardhughes103@> wrote: > > > > I wouldn't doubt anyones experience, it's just I've never heard > > anyone say they have seen it for real. > > > > Even though I've had a few astonishingly good YF experiences > > there's nothing that would win me James Randi's million dollar > > prize for proving the existence of the paranormal as you're > > either hovering or you're not, there's no "almost" flying in > > my book. > > > > I would like to see it for myself, in fact I would travel > > anywhere to see it as it would, as you say, break a few > > boundaries! > > > > Actually, I wouldn't consider it "just" anything as it would mean > > everthing I'd been taught was wrong and I'd love that. > > Just as a followup and a hearty "What he said!" > to your insight about meaning that everything > you'd been taught was wrong, here's a funny > story. > > When I still lived in L.A. and was studying > with Rama, I ran into an old girlfriend who > was still heavily into Maharishi and TM. She > asked me what I was up to and I told her and > even told her that I was going to a public > lecture of Rama's that night and asked if > she'd like to go. To her credit, she said yes. > > So we go to the lecture, which was in that > most spiritual of locations, the Los Angeles > Convention Center :-), and we're sittin' there > in the second row, watching as Rama does his > thing, and she starts...uh...vocalizing. > > She does that a lot. Suffice it to say that > when we'd been going out, my neighbors had > called to complain about her vocalizing more > than once. :-) > > So in this public talk she wasn't moaning or > anything When Harry Met Sally-like, but she > did start talking to herself, out loud. I and > another friend sat there and heard her say, > "Oh my God, he's levitating." Or, "Holy shit, > he just disappeared." Or, "The whole room is > full of gold light." Or, "Did the walls of > the room just disappear?" > > She went on like this for two hours, but then > after the talk was over didn't say a word on > the whole drive home, and then just said good > night and bolted for her door. > > The next day, when I called to ask if she had > enjoyed herself, she claimed to have seen > *nothing* and experienced *nothing* out of > the ordinary. > > The moral of this story? Even when you *do* > run into such phenomena, you can make them > "go away" if you choose not to have seen them. > In her case (since she's a super TM blissninny), > I suspect that the issue was that it wasn't > *Maharishi* doing these things. If it had been, > she could admit to having witnessed them. But > because it was someone else, she couldn't. > > Interesting, eh? >
Very, my definition of a true believer is someone who compares all things to whether or not it agrees with what they "know" to be the truth. It always scares me when people wont see what's in front of them because it doesn't fit in, the blinkers go on and that is that. I guess some people need a solid view of things to keep insecurities at bay and some just like to have everything already explained as it saves thinking things out for themselves. And there's often a self congratulatory tone that grates on my teeth a bit. Nout so queer as folk eh? > So while I believe without reservation that you > would be open to seeing such phenomena, do you > think that Judy would be able to see them? I > suspect she wouldn't admit that someone (other > than an official On The Program TMer) was really > levitating even if he flew over her head, dropped > trou, and shat on her head. > > Can't you just see her sitting there, a big turd > in her coiffure, saying over and over, "Nothing > happened. Nothing happened. Nothing happened." :-) > Boy, I'm starting to think you two will never be friends ;-)
