--- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In > [email protected], "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" > <tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@> wrote: > > > > Marek writes snipped: > > Also, I agree with you that when there is any experience of > > awakening, no matter how transitory, the hook would seem to have been > > set and the search for its permanency might begin in earnest. At > > least that's been many folks' experience, though Curtis at this point > > in time, seems to have come to a different conclusion regardless of > > how much he has enjoyed (or enjoys) what many would designate > > as 'spiritual' experiences or transient awakening. > > > > Tom T: > > To paraphrase Jean Klein from "I AM". The awakening was (past tense) > > instantaneous, clarity takes place in space time. What made us seekers > > was that glimpse. 30+ years later clarity is dawning or has arrived. > TomT > > As Geezer has reminded me, 30 years approximates one complete cycle of > Saturn, or IIRC one full span of ascending and descending Initiations > in the old "Rorian Tradition" (and which, according to my old "Rules > of the Game," are ongoing whether we choose to consciously appreciate > them and learn from them or not).
I'll have to go back and read your explanation of the ascending/descending initiations. Personally I gained my Realization nearly exactly thirty years after starting TM (29 years and 6 months; November 1975 - May 2005) (RIP-LOL!). Just to clarify, when I say "gained my Realization", one day all of my spritual comparisons just evaporated and I have been free ever since. The discrimination working all the time to compare how I had acted, compared how I wanted to act, just stopped; the synchronicity between needs and fulfillment has been near perfect ever since. I wrote a good description of it on FFL a couple of times, but I can't find the exact posting.:-)
