"Besides, Tom got it right-- a lot of TMers are experienceing
> enlightenment now, 24x7, and I am sincerely sorry you missed the
> boat. However, your attitude of equivalent values ain't going to get
> you there. So keep on thinking and feeling that everything is equal
> to everything else, and enlightenment has no subjective experience
> of greater fulfillment, and dude, you have missed the boat forever.
> Your choice...wanking, or progress.:-)"

Just a clarification for those of us who have "missed the boat
forever", is the boat wanking-free?  And this is considered progress
and fulfillment?  Why is wanking always the fall guy?  Most undeserved
bad rap in history.  Just thought I would put in a few kind words for
a lifelong good friend.















--- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Hi and thanks for the insight. I've always felt intuitively 
> > > > > not to mix more than one type of meditation and now your 
> > > > > explanation makes perfect sense.  ...
> > > >  
> > > > You would not find one real Saint, not ONE, that would 
> > > > recommend, or even tolerate, mixing systems. Some socalled 
> > > > Gurus perhaps, but no real Saint.
> > > 
> > > I present the above as examples of the results of
> > > spiritual brainwashing, the intentional creation 
> > > of fear in spiritual seekers by the very organi-
> > > zation they went to in search of enlightenment.
> > > 
> > > The first poster has managed to blot out of his
> > > mind the hundreds, possibly thousands, of times
> > > over the years that he has been *told* never to 
> > > "mix meditation techniques" by the TMO. He has 
> > > managed to blot out the many times and has been 
> > > shown *what happens* in the TMO to those who are
> > > *not* afraid to "mix and match" -- they are thrown
> > > out and demonized. He doesn't seem to be able to 
> > > remember these things at all. 
> > > 
> > I am the first poster and I heard that advice exactly twice, and I 
> > haven't blotted it out if mny mind. Once was soon after I learned TM 
> > in 1975, and the second time was while I was working for the TM 
> > movement in 1978. 
> > 
> > You continue to make up this fantasy of yours out of whole cloth as 
> > an excuse for a lack of integrity- something I noticed very early on 
> > on FFL with you. You are constantly giving half answers and side 
> > stepping issues. If that makes you happy, fine, but don't try to 
> > convince anyone that your endless mental masturbations substitute 
> > for a spiritual path. They don't, although I don't mind if you 
> > disagree with this, and keep on wanking forever. It does the genuine 
> > seekers here a disservice to have you generating all of this 
> > nonsense though. What you hope to get out of it, save a little bit 
> > more attention is beyond me. You may be a nice guy if I met you on 
> > the street, but in this forum, you just love to generate 
> > controversy, derision and confusion. And that says a lot more about 
> > your "spiritual path" than any words you care to share.
> > 
> > Besides, Tom got it right-- a lot of TMers are experienceing 
> > enlightenment now, 24x7, and I am sincerely sorry you missed the 
> > boat. However, your attitude of equivalent values ain't going to get 
> > you there. So keep on thinking and feeling that everything is equal 
> > to everything else, and enlightenment has no subjective experience 
> > of greater fulfillment, and dude, you have missed the boat forever. 
> > Your choice...wanking, or progress.:-)
> 
> 
> Very good. <smile>
>


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