--- In [email protected], "Richard J. Williams" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> But, Rory, wouldn't you think that such a phenomenon 
> would have been mentioned by someone, somewhere? Maybe
> I missed it, but could you point me to any comments that
> addressed this earth-shattering event. Barry didn't
> mention in in ten years of posting to Usenet; Freddy didn't
> mention it in his books: 'Surfing the Himalayas' or
> 'Surfing to Nirvana', and you didn't mention it in your
> autobiography. What's up with that?

I don't know, Richard; maybe you didn't read my autobiography 
thoroughly enough, or I wasn't clear enough in my account. Either 
way, here it was: http://artesmagicae.com/auto6d.htm
 
> > IME it wasn't astral or subtle-body projection, and 
> > it felt quite physical and real. On what level(s) of 
> > reality it took place I couldn't tell you,

"Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On the level of suggestion?

*lol* If you are willing to concede that the entire physical reality 
is on the suggestion, then, yes, absolutely :-)

Rory wrote:
> > but its effect was to fuse previously-differentiated 
> > understandings of matter and spirit into ONE.

Richard wrote:
> Is that what Marshy's "bum-hopping" accomplishes - fusing
> "matter and spirit into ONE"? 

Rory wrote:
I couldn't tell you what Maharishi's "bum hopping" accomplishes, as I 
really don't know how to ascribe cause and effect in this instance, 
or even in my life as a whole :-)

Richard wrote:
>What do you suppose people
> would say about this at <sci.skeptic>?
 http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/topics


Rory wrote:
Why do you suppose I would care? People are *expert* at maintaining 
their own blind-spots and realities, that much I do know :-)
 

> > As Barry says, this kind of experience is visceral and 
> > *intense* and IME took many years to fully assimilate.

Richard wrote:
> > 
> This kind of experience is usually described as being
> under the influence of a trance-induction state or 
> hypnosis. Sometimes it's described as mixing up and
> passing out the kool-aid.

Rory wrote:

Describe it how you will, Richard; apparently you weren't there (for 
whatever reason) and apparently I was :-)


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