--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Peter <drpetersutphen@> wrote: > > > > Yeah, Vaj, my concept is so superior to your > > experience! Think it and weep! > > Well said, Peter. > > That's the thing that so amazes me here sometimes, > and makes me wonder about spiritual traditions that > claim to not only have all the answers, but the > *definitive* answers. > > In Boulder, CO, back when he was alive, Chogyam > Trungpa sponsored a number of "Holy Man Jams." > The schtick was to invite noted spiritual teachers > from different traditions and put them up on stage > together to discuss spirituality. I never got to > attend any of them, but several close friends who > did said that they were a hoot, because almost > without exception (Trungpa himself being one), they > almost always devolved into arguments. > > Different teachers from different Hindu traditions > would argue over nitpicky details or interpretations > of nitpicky esoteric concepts that only they cared > about. Different Buddhist teachers would argue over > similar nitpicky details. And naturally they would > argue across traditions. But the bottom line is that > almost without exception they would argue, and the > bottom line of *each and every participant* in the > arguments was Peter's wonderful line above, delivered > with pretty much the same "Fuck you!" inflection that > he managed to put into his post -- "My concept is > better than your concept (or experience). Read it > and weep!" >
I know! Shankara was SUCH an argumentative fellow. And Vyassa -- Jeez he would talk your ear off. Why don't all these teachers just get hip -- and lay back and say "groovy".
