--- In [email protected], t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

See http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/avhp/later.html#mad

> The thread also mentions 'Madhusudana Saraswati'
> who was an Advaitin, but also a great Bhakta. We recently had here
> with Ron and Swami_G the discussion about Non Brahmins non being
> admitted to the Dandi Swami orders. Well, that Non-Brahmins had access
> to the 7 other orders finally, was due to the activity of Madhusudana
> Sarsawati, who was also a great scholar, and this was also the birth
> of the Naga Babas, the warrior sadhus. It was he who brought the issue
> that many Sadhus where the victim of islamic faqirs to Akbar, who
> suggested that Non-Brahmins should be admitted who could fight and
> carry weapons. As a concession to the orthodox it was determined, that
> three orders should be excluded from this innovation, among them the
> Saraswati order. Madhusudana persuaded the Sadhu congregations to
> follow Akhbars advice. 
> There was also an argument with Ron that Shivananda,
> being a Saraswati, also initiated Non-Brahmins. I now have read that
> this tradition has loosened in the south, so, yes Saraswatis in the
> south can be Non Brahmins, but they can definitely not be Dandi Swamis.
> 


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