New.Morn - thanks for the clarification about the different San Diego Edu's.
Unfortunately I only briefly corresponded with him in email. As far as his
possible association with the TMO, my scholar-friend did not say and I did not
ask Dr. Nelson in my emails. I've been waiting for word that he finally
published something in book form. Perhaps I should try to email him again.
Since you have been to his website, you know this already, but here are a
couple of references for readers of this thread who might want to look deeper:
"The Ontology of Bhakti: Devotion as Paramapurusartha in Gaudiya Vaisnavism
and Madhusudana Sarasvati."Journal of Indian Philosophy 32/4 (November, 2004):
345-392.
"Bhakti Preempted: Madhusudana Sarasvati on Devotion for the Advaitin
Renouncer." Journal of Vaisnava Studies 6 (Winter 1998): 53-74.
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"new.morning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
--- In [email protected], billy jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> An FYI for Trinity, (and anyone else)
>
> For those interested in how krishna-bhakta manifests in the
consciousness of an advaita yogin, an excellent resource to read is
MadhusUdana Saraswati's commentary on the Bhagavad Gita. He
interweaves a word-for-word analysis of each Gita verse with many
quotes and examples of text from the yogasutras, upanishads and
brahmasutras. He wrote extraordinary bhakti text such as the
Bhakti-Rasayana but these have not been translated yet. Dr. Lance
Nelson, professor and chair of the religion department at UC-San Diego,
http://www.sandiego.edu/theo/facultystaff/nelson.php
Actually its University of San Diego -- a completely different
university than UC San Diego. Though both have stellar reputations --
and both sit on hills perched above San Diego -- but 5-10 miles apart.
Both not to be confused with SDSU -- San Diego Sate University (can
you say "party"?) -- which again sits on a hill, but more inland.
Fascinating that Lance is at USD. I do not know of him -- but lived in
SD for many years. Funny how such great resources are within walking
(aka bicycling) distance -- without even knowing it.
Does have any past TMO connection?
http://www.sandiego.edu/theo/facultystaff/nelson.php
told me in an email that he is planning to publish some of this
material in a book but I haven't seen anything yet.
>
> The best translation is: "Madhusudana Sarasvati Bhagavad-Gita:
with the annotation Gudhartha-Dipika" Translated by Swami
Gambhirananda 1038 page quality hardback for $19.95 (a steal)
published by Advaita Ashrama This book is available at: "Vedanta
Press and Catalog" www.vedanta.com
>
>
> t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In
[email protected], billy jim <emptybill@> wrote:
> >
> > I read your link. I agree with you entirely.
>
> The link in the link is worth reading. So, as an information to Judy,
> the following might be instructive:
>
> 'As an aside, these authors are quite aware that their method is very
> close to the madhyamaka approach, but they categorically assert
> brahman as the only absolute, and still find fault with nAgArjuna for
> not asserting the existence of one absolute.'
>
> http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/avhp/creation.html
>
> There was recently a thread in the Yahoo group Advaitin, regarding the
> difference between the three major Vedanta philosophies:
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/advaitin/messages/36214?threaded=1&m=e&var=1&tidx=1
>
> It led me to the following overview:
> http://www.geocities.com/profvk/gohitvip/74.html
>
> The thread also mentions 'Madhusudana Saraswati'
> who was an Advaitin, but also a great Bhakta. We recently had here
> with Ron and Swami_G the discussion about Non Brahmins non being
> admitted to the Dandi Swami orders. Well, that Non-Brahmins had access
> to the 7 other orders finally, was due to the activity of Madhusudana
> Sarsawati, who was also a great scholar, and this was also the birth
> of the Naga Babas, the warrior sadhus. It was he who brought the issue
> that many Sadhus where the victim of islamic faqirs to Akbar, who
> suggested that Non-Brahmins should be admitted who could fight and
> carry weapons. As a concession to the orthodox it was determined, that
> three orders should be excluded from this innovation, among them the
> Saraswati order. Madhusudana persuaded the Sadhu congregations to
> follow Akhbars advice.
> There was also an argument with Ron that Shivananda,
> being a Saraswati, also initiated Non-Brahmins. I now have read that
> this tradition has loosened in the south, so, yes Saraswatis in the
> south can be Non Brahmins, but they can definitely not be Dandi Swamis.
>
> Regarding bhakti, Madhusudana Saraswati says :
>
> "Duality is Bondage before MOKSHA, and after Realization it is
> wisdom ! The imaginary duality of BHAKTI is sweeter than even Non-
> duality!"
>
> This may be especially interesting to Vaj who believes that MMY
> invented Bhagavati Chetana. Nothing could be further from truth!
>
>
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