>From the Associated Press:
Marine: Beating of Iraqis Became Routine

July 15,2007 | CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. -- A Marine corporal testifying 
in a court-martial said Marines in his unit began routinely beating 
Iraqis after officers ordered them to "crank up the violence level."
 
Cpl. Saul H. Lopezromo testified Saturday at the murder trial of Cpl. 
Trent D. Thomas.

"We were told to crank up the violence level," said Lopezromo, 
testifying for the defense.

When a juror asked for further explanation, Lopezromo said: "We beat 
people, sir."

Within weeks of allegedly being scolded, seven Marines and a Navy 
corpsman went out late one night to find and kill a suspected 
insurgent in the village of Hamandiya near the Abu Ghraib prison. The 
Marines and corpsman were from 2nd Platoon, Kilo Company, 3rd 
Battalion, 5th Regiment.

Lopezromo said the suspected insurgent was known to his neighbors as 
the "prince of jihad," and had been arrested several times and later 
released by the Iraqi legal system.

Unable to find him, the Marines and corpsman dragged another man from 
his house, fatally shot him, and then planted an AK-47 assault rifle 
near the body to make it appear he had been killed in a shootout, 
according to court testimony.

Four Marines and the corpsman, initially charged with murder in the 
April 2006 killing, have pleaded guilty to reduced charges and been 
given jail sentences ranging from 10 months to eight years. Thomas, 
25, from St. Louis, pleaded guilty but withdrew his plea and is the 
first defendant to go to court-martial.

Lopezromo, who was not part of the squad on its late-night mission, 
said he saw nothing wrong with what Thomas did.

"I don't see it as an execution, sir," he told the judge. "I see it 
as killing the enemy."

He said Marines consider all Iraqi men part of the insurgency.

Lopezromo and two other Marines were charged in August with 
assaulting an Iraqi two weeks before the killing that led to charges 
against Thomas and the others. Charges against all three were later 
dropped.

Thomas' attorneys have said he suffers from post-traumatic stress 
disorder and traumatic brain injury from his combat duty in Fallouja 
in 2004. They have argued that Thomas believed he was following a 
lawful order to get tougher with suspected insurgents.

Prosecution witnesses testified that Thomas shot the 52-year-old man 
at point-blank range after he had already been shot by other Marines 
and was lying on the ground.

Lopezromo said a procedure called "dead-checking" was routine. If 
Marines entered a house where a man was wounded, instead of checking 
to see whether he needed medical aid, they shot him to make sure he 
was dead, he testified.

"If somebody is worth shooting once, they're worth shooting twice," 
he said.

The jury is composed of three officers and six enlisted personnel, 
all of whom have served in Iraq. The trial was set to resume Monday.


--- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], MDixon6569@ wrote:
> >
> >  
> > In a message dated 7/16/07 10:35:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> > jstein@ writes:
> > 
> > In a  message dated 7/16/07 10:12:45 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
> > >  do.rflex@ writes:
> > > 
> > > What od youn make of the fact that the  suicide bombs that go 
off in
> > > > Baghadad on a daily basis, killing  scores of civilians, and 
> > offering
> > > > an excuse to keep US forces  there are in fact US cruise 
missiles
> > > > lobbied into down town  Bagdad?
> > > > 
> > > > ROFLOL!!!!!! ROFL
> > > 
> > > Bwana  apparently thinks killing is funny.
> > > 
> > > Actually, I think what  you want others to believe is 
hysterical.
> > 
> > FWIW, there may well be a  grain (but only a grain) of
> > truth to what Peter says, in that one explosion  in 2003
> > may have been caused by a U.S. air-fired weapon (though
> > not a  cruise missile) that went astray and landed in a
> > market, killing 60  people.
> > 
> > The link Peter provided has details. The U.S., natch,
> > has  denied it, but the incident has never been
> > thoroughly investigated, and it  remains uncertain
> > exactly what happened.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Judy you are talking about a "grain" of truth in a 10 pound bag or
> rice. If  
> > you read the sentence it accuses the US of lobbing cruise missiles
> into  
> > Baghdad on a daily basis. Do you believe that?
> 
> 
> The following video clip might more accurately depict the seemingly
> perpetual and unnecessary killing on a daily basis in Iraq:
> 
> Inside the surge
> 
> The Guardian's award-winning photographer and filmmaker Sean Smith
> spent two months embedded with US troops in Baghdad and Anbar
> province. His harrowing documentary exposes the exhaustion and
> disillusionment of the soldiers.
> 
> Video clip: http://tinyurl.com/2tz76s
>


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