> 
> Back in June, Swami G's list of Kundalini Symptoms was posted to FFL (
> http://www.kundalinisupport.com/complications.htm ), and the list
> contained symptoms ranging from very flashy to so ordinary they could
> easily be overlooked as being Kundalini experiences. From my own
> experience, I may very well be experiencing Kundalini phenomena and am
> simply not focussed on identifying them as such. For example, for the
> last year and a half, I've often had the subtle energetic sensation
> that the top of my head is not there and that there's a sort of
> fountain shooting up and out of it. I had a certain gee whiz
> fascination with it when I first noticed it, but now it's just part of
> the ordinary internal landscape.
> 
> So, it could be that one can tread the Kundalini path for Realization
> without even knowing it. It could also be that lots seekers of
> Realization are, in reality, seekers of flashy experiences.
>

You want it to awaken, but then it simply is said it should be under the 
direction of a Sat 
Guru. I truely would love to see anyone have this and hear what they have to 
say. Especially  
interested in those who have a TM background.

Without the competant Guru in place, it is not recomended. Chasing phenomina is 
the last 
thing in  the world a competant Sat Guru would have their disciples going 
after. Maybe , 
and mind my use of the word Maybe, one would in fact turn the Kundalini 
awakening into 
a chasing of phenomina, and then the Sat Guru would see this and stop it 
immeditatly, 
replaceing the experience with that which is most advantageous for the disciple 
to move 
forward as rapidly as possible to unfold enlightenment.

My experience while in TM was it was starting to awaken lightly. Maybe this is 
what is 
taking place with you. Based on my contact with Swami G before I met her in 
person and 
took Diksha, she was very tuned in to what was taking place with me. It was 
completely 
accurate. I would tell her what is taking place in my life, what experiences in 
my TM, then 
she said ( once it started to happen) , the kundalini is attemting to awaken. 

Then she said where as before, you were invited to come here, this is no longer 
the case. 
Now, you have to make a choice, stop observing the breath, ( the breath 
instruction is 
literally that simply), stop reading the posts, do not donate any more money 
here as this 
should not be done if one is not drawing from the ocean of knowledge here, and  
"have 
nothing more to do with this one any longer". So either that or I enter the 
path, but the 
thing is that if the kundalini awakens, then the guidance should be in place.

In my situation, maybe due to my intense personality or whatever, I think I can 
say that 
along with observing the breath, doing my TM and reading those posts, it would 
have 
been enough for the Kundalini to awaken. This may be hard to understand or 
explain- but 
reading those posts and observing the breath was going very deep for me

So, Swami G said if I do come out there, then in my case ( each is individual), 
just from 
being around swami G, the energy practices given ( shaktipat) and satsang, that 
the 
kundalini would awaken. It did. Note , Swami G is not a psychic- i just look at 
it as it is like 
flow or Being speaking- so yes , i assign this attribute to it- yes, this 
honestly is faith as I 
don't know any other possibility unless this Being is my own and I am not 
enlightened.

There is another that swami G met recently who has a similar TM background as I 
do. 
Swami G said the same of him. Therefore, I would be most interested to see what 
he has to 
say, however, at this time , he is not going for it.

I think for most, it is not fast like this. However, maybe for those with long 
TM 
backgrounds and also other groups, maybe it is similar as what I experienced. I 
dont know 
and that's how it is for the time being- I don't notice the hoards of people 
lining up, but 
what ever happens if fine.

I am being rather friendly, as I also was years ago on FFL, even though there 
certainly are 
some rough accusations flying at quite a few here, as far as I can tell, and i 
am not 
excluded from the glorious comments, so it seems.



Response to another post:


If you spend time with a "guru" and you do not become
Realized, guess what? They're not your Sadguru. You
gain value from that association and perhaps in the
scheme of things you needed to spend some time
unstressing/purifying/completing-a-karmic-debt with
that particular guru. Such a guru my be a Sadguru for
one person and not a Sadguru for another.

Tanmay: How much time do I get before I turn into a pumkin?

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