Every thing is relative.

On Jul 30, 2007, at 10:38 AM, new.morning wrote:

1) be a sexual lecher

Not a good sign, but again, depends on circumstances. See The Divine Madman. Drukpa Kunleg had sexual relations with a number of "ripe" women presumably to assist in their awakening. The great female saint Yeshe Tsogyal awakened the mindstreams of her rapists. If it fosters awakening, it could be awakened activity. If it creates fear and confusion, etc., it's probably not enlightened activity.


2) cut corners in business deals, and be an abnormally hard and tricky
bargainer?

In others words, ignore fair trade for to benefit one person or org over another? Sounds like a form of dishonesty to me.


3) fell the ends justify the means in fund raising an volunteer efforts

??? Depends on the means and the ends?


4) Take credit for scriptural interpretations not his own

Lying. Not a good sign.


5) treat people sternly an direct anger at them (particularly when its
"called" for)

Depends what the underlying intent is and the cause of the directed anger.


6) Lie

See 4.


7) Cheat

Depends on what the underlying motivation is and the overall effect of the actions.


8) break codes of conduct

Depends on what the underlying motivation is and the overall effect of the actions.



9) cheat on taxes and currency transfers

Breaking the laws of a country? Not good, ignoring relative realities. How could we accept such a beings absolute declarations if their handling of relative reality is faulty?


10) bribe officials to get things done

Depends on what the underlying motivation is and the overall effect of the actions.



11) burn out personal assistants

Not a good sign. Ever meet HHDL's personal assistant/translator?


12) run authoritarian and anal organizations

Depends on what the underlying motivation is and the overall effect of the actions.


13) become unhealthy, with numerous diseases

Welcome to samsara.


14) have a bawdy sense of humor

Depends on what the underlying motivation is and the overall effect of the actions.


15) fart in public

According to Ayurveda, there are certain "urges" which should not be suppressed. Farting is one of them. Best performed with good air circulation.


16) eat a bad diet

Treating your vehicle badly is generally a bad action because if you're enlightened and have a diet which will impair the body, you will lose the vehicle you use to awaken and remove suffering.


17) curse

Depends on what the underlying motivation is and the overall effect of the actions.


18) not tolerate fools

Lack of compassion, not a good sign re: spontaneous qualities (of an enlightened being).


19) like luxurious surroundings

Attachment. Not a good sign, but relative.


20) have visions of creating a new order to last 10,000 years

Lack of understanding of impermanence, not a good sign.


21) discriminate and/or prejudge among different groups of people

Lack of sama, not a good sign. Still caught in accepting and judging mental constructs.


22) admire dictators and tyrants

Not a good sign, but depends on specific circumstances.


23) call some leaders to be devils

Depends on the leader and circumstances.


24) be homsexual

As long as it harms no other beings, what's the big deal?


25) be a pedaphile

Harming sentient beings, very bad sign.


26) sleep with students and devotees

Depends on what the underlying motivation is and the overall effect of the actions.


27) sleep until noon

Depends on what the underlying motivation is and the overall effect of the actions. Some yogis do their sadhana while sleeping.


28) like I Love Lucy and cartoons

Good sign.


29) Like heavy metal

Irrelevant.


30) give special treatment to rich donors

Depends on what the underlying motivation is and the overall effect of the actions.


31) eat meat

Depends on what the underlying motivation is and the overall effect of the actions.


32) be out of shape, not fit

See 16, file under "treating physical vehicle badly"

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