---except for the natural "drugs" (neurotransmitters) produced by your 
own body, some of them similar to the drug DMT.



 In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], new.morning <no_reply@> wrote:
> > Yet Jim in a post yesterday dismissed the analogy of acid induced
> > states of being as not valid because they were not permanent. 
> 
> Though it was Rory who said that, I did want to add that the quid pro 
> quo regarding drug induced or enhanced spiritual experiences is that 
> the experiences *are* produced by the drug, and so whatever the drug 
> adds to the body and mind in order to produce an effect, must 
> necessarily be depleted afterwards, so there is a net zero effect. 
The 
> most commonly known of these depletion results is the alcohol 
> induced "hangover". This see-sawing of the physiology makes it 
> impossible, as your friends noted, to induce permanent spiritual 
> change solely through drug use, no matter how insightful the drug 
> induced experiences might be.:-)
>


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