In a message dated 7/31/07 11:06:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

It is  such a cynical view from both sides to use the death of men, 
women and  children as a political pawn to score points. really 
sickening and  cold-hearted. Whether the surge "works" or not, I just 
want this damned  war to be over soon, and for us as a country to 
recognize that it has  solved nothing.:-)




Do you really want it to be for nothing?:) Why don't you want it to be a  
success? I'll tell you why, because then you can say you were right. Pure ego  
and it gives the Democrats another chance to relive the days following the  
defeat in Vietnam . If it works, there is a new democracy in an area of the  
world 
that is used to tyrants and dictators that breed the very unrest and  
hopelessness that fuels the violence so common to the middle east. It also  
allows 
people in other middle eastern nations to ask why they couldn't have the  same 
thing. In effect you said it from your heart, you want a defeat, you want  
failure, you want it to solve nothing. It really is hard to accomplish anything 
 
when you have to drag around so much dead weight. There is an old saying, 
Either  lead, follow or get the hell out of the way.



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