boo wrote:
> Bush is pulling a nixon actually. recently released white 
> house audio tapes reveal nixon, kissinger and the military 
> agreeing in 1971 that the vietnam war was unwinnable, but 
> kissinger prevailing in his view to postpone any troop 
> pullouts and the resultant "looking weak" until after the 
> 72 elections.  
>
Maybe you should check out your Vietnam conflict history Mr. 
Boo. The U.S. was winning the war in Vietnam, not losing it. 
It was the Dems that wanted to withdraw when we were winning 
the war. It was the Dems that cut off the funding for the 
Vietnam government. The Vietnam government failed because
of the liberals, who were having street demonstrations, and 
demonstrating against the war, convinced the Dems in congress
to cut off the funds. The result was that millions of people 
got killed after the Commies took over. Vietnam could have
been a free country back then just like South Korea is now.

'Triumph Forsaken: The Vietnam War, 1954-1965' 
by Mark Moyar
Cambridge University Press, 2006

'A Better War: The Unexamined Victories and Final Tragedy of 
America's Last Years in Vietnam' 
by Lewis Sorley
Harvest, 2007

> bush is just doing exactly the same thing.
>
Not exactly, but Kissenger is opposed to pulling out U.S. troops
from Iraq.
 
> this time it may not help repubs with the election but will 
> transfer public blame for the inevitable short term mess 
> after pullout to the next administration.
>
There is not going to be a mass pullout from Iraq. The U.S. will
have troops in Iraq for the next fifty years, just like we've 
had U.S. troops in Germany, Japan, and Korea, for the past fifty 
years. The U.S. probably will be in the Middle East forever. A 
troop pullout now would be dishonorable and probably result in 
the deaths of millions of our allies.

> > Why can't the current politicians pull a Richard Nixon and 
> > declare an honorable victory in Iraq and get the hell outa 
> > there?!  It is now time for the Iraqi's to determine their 
> > own destiny.  They can either unite or break up their country 
> > into sectarian groups.
> >

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