I've heard him discuss this two or three times, although I'm a little fuzzy
about where/when. At least once was at the Montreal ashram and the others may
have been at Lake Tahoe. Usually the context was someone's question about the
purpose and results of practicing hollow and empty.
Sorry I don't remember all the details. I went to 10-12 courses with him from
1996-2002. It is a little blurry for me now. My brain should do yoga sit-ups.
empty
Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yes, I have been taking lessons from Turq and I do
like your post and sorry I'm such an inadequate human
being....I'll do more yogic sit-ups in the future.
When have you heard SSRS talk about this? This is
actually a great insight into many peoples' experience
of the confusion and fear that arises as pure
consciousness/Self shifts from a bound identification
and a "self" to a unlocalized Self. It takes some time
for the mind to shift in its thinking. I've heard this
expressed as old mental habits that change over time.
I've never heard it terms of very subtle physiology.
Great food for thought. I'd love to hear SSRS's exact
words...important guru speak here.
--- billy jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With all due respect, Peter, your reply is
> meaningless - simply another interjection of opinion
> (doxa) without any context (or content for that
> matter). Have you taken secret offline lessons from
> TurkB in expressing your dis-approvals? At least
> your style is more terse.
>
> I've heard SSRS indicate that the ajna-chakra is
> the crucial point in the shift to an enlightened
> state of consciousness. Full time pure consciousness
> brings only confusion until a profound dissolution
> of wrong identification occurs. This realization is
> grounded in recognition of the baseless nature of
> the empirical jiva. Such a change only finalizes
> when the intellect shifts from its previous error of
> misidentification through a transcendent insight
> functioning within the depths of pure awareness. In
> subtle neurological functioning, this shift occurs
> at the ajna-chakra. This is not my opinion but only
> my summary of his explanation.
>
> Shankara called this insight samyak-darshana.
> How's that for a Sanskrit irritant?
>
> By the way, ditto on your lack of reasoning about
> the contradiction between Krishna's "stand up and
> fight" and Patanjali's "ahimsa in all conditions".
>
> I work seven days a week yet still can find time
> to give a short explanation about my reasoning if it
> warrants more than a single line reply. I think you
> could do the same and bring some profit to the
> discussion. To bad you don't.
>
> empty
>
> Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is absolute nonsense. With all due
> respect, you
> don't know what the f*ck you're talking about. ;-)
>
> --- "BillyG." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > MMY seems to be suggesting Enlightenment occurs at
> > the 6th chakra,
> > enlightenment or 'Self-Realization', and Cosmic
> > Consciousness
> > (realization of all of the Cosmos) occurs at the
> 7th
> > Chakra or the
> > cerebral cortex/brain.
> >
> > This would concur with classical Yoga
> > teachings......the sixth chakra
> > would be the spiritual spherical 'third eye' and
> the
> > center of Self
> > Realization; and CC in the cerebral cortex would
> be
> > realization of the
> > Spirit/Purusha omnipresent in and beyond creation.
> >
> > So far I haven't felt any ants crawling around up
> > and down so I guess
> > I have a ways to go!
> >
> >
> >
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