--- In [email protected], nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Peter <drpetersutphen@> wrote: > > > > Mainstream..what in the world are you talking about? > > All this nonsesnse about Charlie claiming Jerry wanted > > to remove the puja, etc. etc. Charlie and Jerry always > > had underlying conflicts because Charlie was a big > > lovable spiritual BS'er and Jerry was a little more > > discriminating in the intellect department. Is this > > conjecture on your part or what? Did you have your > > finger on the pulse of the TMO during this time > > because I certainly did and nothing..absolutely > > nothing of what you are talking about was ever > > remotely spoken about by anybody. Rick, did you ever > > hear of such a thing? > > In Seelisberg 1975 I was told that Mr. Jarvis had to go > because he had witheld ATR funds. Just a rumour though.
And I can tell you that in at least one instance that not only wasn't true, it is exactly the opposite of what happened. This rumor sounds like it was started by some whiner on International Staff who had a slightly warped view of who Jerry might have been withholding the funds *from*. As I remember the situation, Jerry told Seelisberg that as a result of years of them basically raping the US organization financially and demanding that they send them most of the money, there were insuf- ficient funds *available* in the US movement's bank accounts to honor ATR credit for many TM teachers who had earned it. The response came back from Seelisberg telling him to tell the teachers that their ATR credit didn't exist any more -- that it had been rescinded. Typical TMO behavior. And Jerry was in the center of the whirlwind -- or shitstorm, whichever term you prefer. It would have been impossible for a *saint* to deal with the unreasonable and uncon- scionable demands that Maharishi and International Staff were placing on the US organization in the late Seventies. Jerry bore it well IMO, and I never heard him give voice to the frustrations he was obviously feeling, but it must have weighed heavily on him. He had an innate sense of fairness about him, and always tried to honor the TM teachers in the field who were -- after all -- doing the work that paid his salary. They also, of course, paid for all the whiny assholes who lived in hotels in Europe "working" on International Staff while sponging off of the efforts of people who were actually doing real teaching. It was just one of those periods that was occasaionally *heartbreaking*. Working at the National TM offices in Westwood, and later in Pacific Palisades, you'd hear stories juxtaposed against one another that would just make you cry. As I remember, the day after we got told to tell all the teachers that they had no more ATR credit, and that everything they'd earned up till then had been forfeited, we got word that Maharishi had just spent several million dollars on a new locomotive-sized Heidelberg printing press for MIU Press. They were making a big deal about it because it was bigger than the presses owned by large printing houses like Random House. These presses are designed to run 24/7, never stopping. MIU Press used it to print a few copies of books that never sold and then let it stand idle for weeks at a time, while the TM teachers who had *paid* for this press were told that they couldn't attend ATR courses. I'd say that it's absolutely *amazing* that Jerry has as positive an attitude towards Maharishi and the TMO as seems to be the case from what matrixmonitor has told us.
